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By definition all loot games and games with rng elements are gambling From borderlands to pokemon to destiny Please feel free to step down from your soap box
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  • [quote]By definition all loot games and games with rng elements are gambling From borderlands to pokemon to destiny Please feel free to step down from your soap box[/quote] That’s why Warframe is the best Monetization Model out there. Their Prices are fair and upfront etc.

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  • Ehhhhh.

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  • Yet everything is a micro transaction and is arguably "pay to win" Which gaming media tells me I'm supposed to hate

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  • Actually gambling is illegal for anyone under 18. The only reason the games companies get away with it is they claim it is not gambling by saying you do not get anything of any monetary value. Which is funny if you ask me as that makes it pretty much robbery, except its gambling robbery so totally family friendly. Please don’t compare RNG elements in games to spending money on gambling mechanics as one is a time sink the other manipulates people into spend millions.

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  • Yet both are designed off of the same principles and prey on an individuals addictive habits

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  • Edited by Mnkke: 12/5/2019 5:03:44 PM
    Wait so opening an engram is preying off of individuals addictive habits? While gambling at a casino: if you start to lose they intentionally give you free stuff to make you stay and get more money out of you.

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  • Uh yeah How do you think games like bingo and the lottery work? Its the random reinforcement, and that "I didn't get it this time, but maybe this time I'll get it" mentality that random reinforcement fosters RNG games are digital Pavlov experiments

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  • You do realize that this game would literally be shit if we took out engrams and tied world loot to random activities right? Wouldn’t be fun at all.

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  • I mean there was a time when games didn't need rng for longevity. Been saying this for years, RNG isn't quality content

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  • Yeah because for example Skyrim. You don't need RNG. Know why? It is a single player game with LOTS of variety of quests with specific weapons tied to those quests. Only RNG is chest loot (maybe?) and Meridia's Beacon I wanna say. Mehrune's Razor as well. Destiny isn't like that. It isn't a single player game where they can focus on making millions of interesting quests with specific loot tied to it to limit the rng. It is an online multiplayer open world game. It has to be tied to it.

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  • That's cool and all, but the op has a point. We should be keeping all content that we pay for, activities and all.

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  • The only content going away is vex offensive

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  • You do understand why not all the content can stay right ?

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  • Yeah totally That's why not giving bungie any money anymore But that's got nothing to do with loot boxes and rng gambling

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