So Recluse was just... the best Primary weapon in the game for PvE. It did everything a primary should do and more... to the point it over shadowed everything else. It broke shields, had bonus damage, was super forgiving, really didn't need to be accurate... was an energy weapon so it could be used with any of the best kinetic secondaries in the game as well as any heavy exotic. [b]The Legend Himself[/b] broke down why Recluse is just all around good, and the best weapon. Should check it out over here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnr9-n3CdhI Master of Arms outshined every damage perk in the game, giving 21% to crits, and 98% to body shots... making it deal in total the crit value to the body with Master of Arms active. You didn't need to get a kill with the weapon to activate the perk, and the perk had such easy to use up time thanks to procing off itself and Feeding Frenzy. Other weapons could 'compete' but not as well.. to the point Recluse was damn near the only choice- kinda like how Fatebringer used to be. Anyways, now lets look at the nerf. It was broken down by Ehroar (which his video you can see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptgy9QyK_Ko ) that it will still be doing 21% to a crit with Master of Arms active, but that body shot value will also be at 21% as well. So you'll have to aim at the head. Will this destroy the gun? Will other SMG's or primary weapons get a chance to shine as well as Recluse? I don't know. It's probably... gonna be struggling to survive now. Though with it being so easy to activate... the damage won't be the same. However, there are alternatives if you want a new SMG. Subjective from Vex Offensive can roll Multi Kill Clip/Swashbuckler + Outlaw. Every Waking Moment from Eris can roll Outlaw/Subsistence + Swashbuckler/Kill Clip. If you're looking for an SMG in the energy slot to replace recluse... these may be the best... and only options. Unless you're willing to go look for something else. I mean Bug Out Bag from Gambit Prime can roll Multi Kill Clip and Subsistence. But if you don't wanna do that... you could always go farm the Curated Kindled Orchid for Kill Clip Rampage. Anyways, what do you think. Is this nerf to Recluse fair, will it still be good... or has this gun been given the same treatment that Breakneck and Redrix got and become useless trash? EDIT: Side note: Certain Auto Rifles can also shine now. Arc Logic with Rampage and Outlaw, Reckless Oracle... these are all just in the energy slot though. If you're looking for something to replace Recluse in that slot.