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originally posted in: Supers are weak in pve
10/16/2019 6:25:19 AM
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I have a Warlock build with Ashes to Ashes, Light Reactor, Fusion ammo Finder, and I use Chaos Reach tree with Geomag, Loaded Question and Huckleberry. No. You're not remotely underpowered in this game. Not even close. Get good.
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  • Chaos Reach is just the most powerfull super in PvE. There is no other super who can do the same damage, especially with geomag. You don't know what you say.

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  • Pretty sure Nova Bomb beats it. But my point wasn't even about Chaos Reach, it was everything I could do before even getting it, and making it charge super fast.

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  • Edited by Dame Johanna: 10/16/2019 1:58:30 PM
    Not with Geomag. The huge majority of the supers are weak. And like in PvP, Warlock have the best of them. As a main thundercrash, I know what weak supers mean. Even with the build i've done.

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  • Edited by SpaceBird: 10/16/2019 2:04:16 PM
    Then don't main Thundercrash. Like seriously, look at the other Titan Supers. There's 5 melee roaming Supers, a Party Buff Super, and 2 Ranged Roaming Supers and one Single Hit Super. Titan Supers don't exist to do big single target damage, and they never have. They've always been about crowd control. If you're in a 3-6 player content, use Ward of Dawn, or one of the Hammer Supers. Your complaint right now, would be like me saying Supers are weak, because I main Nova Warp. No, Nova Warp just isn't the DPS Super, and neither is Thundercrash.

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  • Solar bottom, middle and top tree : useless because too short and actually it's better to use super energy for finisher than just "demobing". Solar hammer is not the best way for playing when warlock solar blade do the same things but clearly better. There is only one reason to play solar titan : the debuff melee. Combined with sanctified armor who reduce cooldowns when super are up, you just never use your super and just debuff again, again and again for your team. Not my definition of fun. Void juste have the middle tree for PvE, but why do you pick a void titan when you can get a warlock solar with Lunafaction, even with the nerf ? Top are useless because you can't shoot trough the barrier, and bottom are useless for the same reason that solar trees : good to nothing. Arc is good "area denied" super in the top tree, but seriously, who's need an area denying in PvE ? And bottom is pretty useless for PvE because it's not a good "demobing" super, not a good boss or elite killer. It's just a strictly PvP super. And for the Thundercrash, he just do nothing. No good damage, no good area damage, no add control, he just do nothing. It's for me the most funny and visually awesome super of the game, and i'm forced to create an entire build for spam it. And spam thundercrash is no powerfull, it's just for not being totally useless as a titan in PvE. But maybe you're right and all titan main are wrong.

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  • Solar Titans is all good. Bottom tree especially with the new Exotic, is broken as -blam!-. Sun Warrior for 10 seconds and your entire fireteam can use it? That's the best. Middle tree is more of a PvP tree anyway. Top tree melee debuff got a 5s duration buff. Void is all good. Bottom is decent, melee suppresses enemies, middle good for generic PvE, but top Void is a staple in all PvE content like raids and menagerie, vex offensive, ect ect Why would I use it when Well of Radiance exists? Because you take both into a fight, and Ward of Dawn is a stronger damage buff as well. And then Striker is just fine, Thundercrash is a bit weird but the skills in that tree are fine. You just seem to be whining because Titans can't do a Celestial Nighthawk style Super. They never have and never will. Titans excell at what I said, neutral game and crowd control, they're not the big DPS Super. If you want big DPS on a Titan, go get a One Two Punch shotgun and Peregrine Greaves.

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  • I prefer let you now. You have your opinion and you're strictly not here for share it, but for imposed it. And he's wrong in majority. Sorry but no more time to loose in a sterile discussion.

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  • Try that again, but in English. Grow up. Go play Hunter instead then. Titan probably isn't for you. Stop whining about one of the nine subclasses in the game not doing a million damage on its Super because you want it to.

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  • Edited by Dame Johanna: 10/16/2019 3:06:20 PM
    Initially, I was going to write a huge message. But finally, like I said: no more time to loose, think what you want. You are wrong, but just as some people think the earth is flat, it's not my job to convince them. Personnaly, I'm just remembering a time where warlock and hunter should use their supers to create orbs. For allow the powerfull sunbreaker to use his own super for beat a nightfall boss. Think what you want, and don't loose your time. That's my last answer to you.

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  • Yeah but I'm not wrong though.

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  • Yeah but your no were near borderlands3 broken.

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  • ? What does that even mean? Borderless 3 end game is just shooting Lyuda over and over. It's not even the same type of game.

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  • Cheap build. My 1.0 is so much better. Good luck with 2.0 crap.

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  • Go on, what was your "amazing" 1.0 build?

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  • I was being sarcastic. I actually like people who use ashes to assets, just thought you could use the enhanced version, and do better with 1.0 than 2.0 until you get all mods to drop, without spending hundreds of enhancement cores. Check my lock. Hive armament, repurposing, barrier and the likes when playing hive. Fallen armament and the like when playing fallen. Throw a grenade, break a shield? recover it. Throw a grenade, kill an add? Recover 90% of it plus heavy ammo directly into my 1k voice. Then you also get a lot of super back when you do. The normal perk is almost irrelevant, unlike light reactor...

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  • You gotta make sure you use the universal " /s " sign then :p Not lucky enough to get Enhanced Ashes yet, but it's already busted anyway. Void builds are super fun, I don't have Contraverse Hold though yet ; - ;

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  • Oh that’s why then. I assumed you had the gloves. Well you’re going to understand the power of void when you do! Then I’ll bet you’ll be chasing armaments and enhanced A2A.

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  • I mean I already know what I'm gonna be doing with that for top tree Void especially. I wanna try n make something good for middle tree though for PvP. Also wanna try a big meme build with an Arc subclass and Thundercoil, maybe pairing it with Winters Guile see if I can just become permanent Palpatine

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  • I don’t know anything but transversive steps for my warlock in PvP. I‘m no great pvp player, for middle tree I would recommend astrocyte verses with maximum mobility and traction on boots.

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  • Yeah I use Tranversive Steps at the moment, people can't even react half the time, but I don't like it with blink, cos I like being able to glide by them and shoot (I still need Astrocyte as well >> )

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  • Oh yeah blink without astrocyte is just plain broken, useless. It’s a bit like many exotics with catalyst. The guns are crap until you complete the catalyst which makes them effective. Same goes with blink. It’s effective with the helmet. You’ll have little cool down, instant radar, effective awareness. It’s actually similar to the point I was trying to make about the void grenades, enhance a2a, controverse, armaments and repurposing. The power of void really comes when you have it all. The downside though imho is I still have to use third party applications and can’t have a damn “loadout 1, 2, 3...) in my inventory, which often makes the preparation longer than the activity... Anyway hope you loot those exotics!

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  • Yeah i do really really think they should add saved Loadouts or something, where you can just save an equipped set, then it'll just auto equip it all

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