How is this even a thing? This is supposed to be "Rise of Iron Plus" according to Bungie. We are already at a lack of new weapons as it is. And then we get this slap in the face? Why keep giving year 2 crap? I had all last year to get that. C'mon Bungie! This is REALLY lazy.
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IRON BANNER: Rise of Iron (6-10 not sure) > Shadowkeep (0)
NEW WORLD DROPS: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep
CRUCIBLE WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1)
VANGUARD WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1)
NEW MONARCHY: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0)
FWC: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0)
DEAD ORBIT: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0)
TRIALS: Rise of Iron (7) > Shadowkeep (0)
STRIKE SPECIFIC LOOT: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep
ARCHON'S FORGE vs. NIGHTMARE HUNTS+VEX OFFENSIVE: Rise of Iron (2) < Shadowkeep (4)
RAID: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (7)
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Edit: There's a huge difference in drip feeding content and being lazy.
Edit 2: and to everyone's disbelief, bungie is replying to other threads with less upvotes and less game related stuff
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The whole expansion is a lazy effort. Every IB weapon is outclassed by other weapons in the same archetype found elsewhere in the game. Any pinnacle bounty rewards that are IB weapons get infused into something better
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You now in d1 we haved 3 vendor refreshes so I still have a hope that we will get new stuff in d2 very soon.
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[quote]How is this even a thing? This is supposed to be "Rise of Iron Plus" according to Bungie. We are already at a lack of new weapons as it is. And then we get this slap in the face? Why keep giving year 2 crap? I had all last year to get that. C'mon Bungie! This is REALLY lazy. [spoiler] IRON BANNER: Rise of Iron (6-10 not sure) > Shadowkeep (0) NEW WORLD DROPS: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep CRUCIBLE WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1) VANGUARD WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1) NEW MONARCHY: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) FWC: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) DEAD ORBIT: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) TRIALS: Rise of Iron (7) > Shadowkeep (0) STRIKE SPECIFIC LOOT: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep ARCHON'S FORGE vs. NIGHTMARE HUNTS+VEX OFFENSIVE: Rise of Iron (2) < Shadowkeep (4) RAID: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (7) [/spoiler] Edit: There's a huge difference in drip feeding content and being lazy.[/quote]
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10 Replies-blam!- the weapons. What about only 3 close range maps? What about MT running rampant? What about recluse being shoved up your arse at every turn? But a hand cannon nerf was needed. Yeah good call. This iron banner is showing how unbalanced these guns are and they refuse to do anything about them. Before anyone says “only because you don’t have them, blah blah blah” I do and I refuse to use them because I’m not a massive dick.
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33 RepliesI'm cool with getting a god roll crimils and claws.
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Yes very disappointed in this n lack of vendor refresh
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I agree. I’m honestly VERY bummed to see the lack of new weapons and armor from almost all vendors this season.. seems like they’re getting lazy on us... I love bungie, but I’m not necessarily happy to see that they are neglecting to deliver full amounts of content. I understand wanting to focus on activities and whatnot, but they can’t just pretend that new Vendor items should stay the same for over a year... cmon..
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2 RepliesAll vendors really should have new weapons and armour each season, and factions should return how they were in D1.
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2 RepliesEdited by MurdeyMD: 10/16/2019 7:52:43 PMAnd yet there is still no reply from anyone at bungie on this as usual. As I say that all I can hear is one of the community managers with the standard "I'll pass your feedback along to the team" Can they also pass along that we all hate eververse and spending more time on items there than actual content for a PAID dlc is total BS and if any other studio did this they would be all over the internet as scum but fanboys and streamers save this shit. I absolutely love this title the gunplay is the best there is in my personal taste and it's the only title I've actually played and bought all the dlc for and kept up with despite all the shit but it's starting to get so ridicules I'm gonna be surprised if theres anybody left to defend them.
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9 RepliesEdited by I KILL ME: 10/17/2019 12:06:25 PMThis! Remember when the raid was worth doing because the armor and weapons were so good, and unique?I can’t tell you how many times I did the vault chasing the damn mythoclast. And a pair of boots to complete my wicked ass armour. Remember when strikes were worth grinding because of the strike exclusive armour and weapons that were so good and unique? Remember when crucible was worth grinding for that god roll eyasluna ? remember when nightfalls actually meant something? Remember when you couldn’t wait for reset? Remember when XUR was a big deal? I would check the forums from work to see what he had. Remember when if you practiced and put in the time you could be a god in crucible and help your friends to the lighthouse? Remember when you pledged to a faction and grinded like crazy for that badass shader, or faction exclusive ship? Remember when your time , effort, and patience and practice mattered in this game? Remember when if you were the better more experience d player , you would win in crucible? Catch up mechanics in gambit,and crucible , damage referees , forced win /loss ratios etc , useless weapons, nerf after nerf of anything that makes you feel like a god in this game,have sucked all the fun away, and now it’s a part time job with very crappy pay. Edited- eyasluna not hawkmoon
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1 ReplyFired up D2 today and was super stoked seeing Iron Banner. I fly to the tower and inspect Saladin....... What in the blue hell? No new weapons? WTF! What kind of BS is that? I was about to make a post, then saw this. I knew I couldn't be the only one who is pissed. =|
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Staff were to busy coming up with concept art for even more cosmetics to put into EV store at even higher prices........
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2 RepliesEdited by Roach: 10/16/2019 3:29:07 AMTake a look at the game, specifically the new gear added to Eververse and its pretty clear where the effort went. Veterans are no longer their focus, we paid for the base game and all the expansions .. they got our money and have spent it. Bungie's focus now are the new players who got the most of the game free and to whom these ARE new weapons. The ones who are used to a cosmetic store to throw money up against.
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This whole expansion is recycled content. The least they could have done is have us new weapons to kill old enemies with.
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1 ReplyAnd only 3 maps. Who at Bungie thought that was a good idea? Bizarre.
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Well it's par for the course. IB, like everything else in this DLC has been a huge disappointment. 2 weeks in and most people are bored already. That's not good. And half the weapons that came out are just lost prophecy weapons with some dirty leaves thrown on them. Wondering why they didn't do perfect Paradox, the only LP weapon that was good.
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10 RepliesBungie has responded about vendor refreshes, not to the forums but to other sources of media because Bungie logic. This one sure takes the cake in regards to "content is too hard"
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1 ReplyDon’t you just love how bungle ignores threads like this?
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80 RepliesEdited by TheShadow-cali: 10/17/2019 12:05:21 AM🤦♂️ I think it's funny how some players have been saying "Bungie added plenty of loot in this game". Sure they did, it's all stored in Tess inventory. Whoops, that's not loot to chase, that was a way to cut corners so Bungie didn't have to create actual new gear or update the vendors, let alone bring factions back, etc... You know, things that would have added actual loot? This is Bungie's big old size of ROI content? 😄 I really like how Bungie loves to talk a lot and make things "sound good" but they don't really come through. It's been getting more comical every day since Shadow keep released. Keep up the good work Bungie 👍
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We’re too busy making content... eververse content.
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I think it's just hard to add in new weapons we already have a variant of. While I would appreciate an archetype of every weapon in both kinetic and all 3 energy variants (ie we have a void, solar, and two kinetic precision frame smgs [in terms of random roll versions], but no arc variant), we are going to have that pull the classic " Wow how lazy to just give it a different energy type". This community is rough on the devs, for both all the right and wrong reasons. But I really want a raid fire frame Hakke autorifle and just in general, for the foundry weapons to come back in force. We have no random roll Hakke scout rifles, omolon scout rifles or autorifles, Suros handcannons, and Veist snipers or sidearms.
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Trust me u haven’t seen lazy until you’ve played a nba 2k game 🤦🏾♂️ smfh their games are terrible and incomplete every yr
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2 RepliesI just cant grow to like the new IB armor :(
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1 Replythe iron Banner has always been trash. The Crucible has always been trash. please look into the "sunk cost fallacy"
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4 RepliesStop whinging m8