You misunderstand me (maybe because I’m currently in counter point against, but still) but I love warframe. There’s a lot of good things about warframe. My argument is that their MTX system would not be a good way for Bungie to handle eververse. I might have made some point about warframe state of the game and it’s horrible pvp, but that comes from a place of love because I want to see it get better. You can’t me tell warframe is in a great place right now, and I just want to see it get better. It’s the same way I felt about D2Y1, the. Forsaken came, and there was hope again with the lowest (critic) rating of 8.2. It brought fairly regular content drops with the season pass, and bungie is expanding on that. Warframe on the other hand is only dropping one big expansion a year, with a few new frames and weapons a year sprinkled in. I want warframe to get better, because it’s a good game in a bad place. On to the actual discussion points: Warframe meta: I’ll give it to you, looking up metas for the conclave, the balance team does a good job of regularly updating mods, weapons and frames. Good job +1 State of the conclave: Horrible. If you look up “how good is the conclave in Warframe?” In google the entire first page is nothing but people talking about how it’s unnecessary, or how to make it better, and even has an article from the director saying that the pvp in Warframe was no handled well and needs to be redone. Granted most posts are from 2018, with a few being this year. Destiny 2 class strengths: Warlock is easily the strongest class right now, if you use angle of death to fly around the map. No other super has that mobility, and with healing riffs allowing continued gun fights, or empowered rifts allowing normally 2 shot weapons to 1 tap. Titans are a close second if for no other reason then OEM. They also have a solid 1 hit melee and a tactical barricade. If you don’t know bottom tree striker, it’s still strong, just not the unkillable juggernaut it once was. Hunters on the other hand don’t have 1 hit melee, their class ability at best, a mobility move that might reload weapons. All class supers have their merit, but only mentioning the most dominate of the other classes, I should follow suit and mention spectral blades. If your not mobile, hunters are the weakest, easily. Weapons: range wise it’s smg>sa>hc>ar>pr>sr with some overlap making sidearms and autorifles our classed by the weapons on either side (ar have at least found a bigger niche with HC nerfs) we are currently in (at least in quick play) a scout/pulse meta with both being more dominate then they previously were. The PR range needs have opened up scout range a bit more, and HC nerfs have opened up the pulse range. The devs have shown at least a better response to things with the heavy ammo change, but we’ll see. Honestly, in the current sandbox the weapon diversity (other than recluse) is pretty solid right now. This is my final post on the topic, if you feel better thinking you have won, more power to you. My whole point was always that warframe was built a certain way and that way lends better to an open market MTX, but destiny isn’t, wasn’t, nor probably ever will be in that position to get a MTX like warframe’s. For the way destiny built, the paid expansions with ornamental MTX is probably the best option. I will continue, however, to agree that I believe the prices of the items in the eververse are to expensive.