Straight up bump. I agree and I'm definitely not a casual

2.0 has been a let down for sure. Not where close to what i was hoping and expecting. Cost. Forcing hc, ar, smg. Just allow all perks on all armor and lower the cost so people can try new things.

Well, it is indeed a mess. The only reason elements are linked to certain weapons is to make sure we have to play 40 hours a week and not just 20 hours.

It's amazing how often Bungie's genuinely good ideas get completely overshadowed by Bungie's completely random nonsensical ones. Actually it's not amazing, it's as predictable as rain in Ireland. Btw I'm in Ireland and it's raining.

I agree with almost everything here. I feel Armor 2.0 was a step in the right direction from Armor 1.0, but it doesn't deliver the freedom and flexibility that I thought the marriage of Fashion and Functionality would bring. Here's some of the issues I see that damper Armor 2.0 from being what it could have been. 1) Infusion. Infusion should not be a grind like it currently is. Oh sure, those Guardians who never stopped playing wouldn't have any problem with the cost of Upgrade Modules, but for everyone else you are holding onto blues cause it is not worth infusing all your armor and weapons by 1 Light Level. Infusion and the adventure of getting to max Light should be a fun journey, not a tactical military plan. Leave the grind to perfect rolls and maxing armor stats. 2) Bottlenecking Class Items. As of right now most of the fun mods are placed on Class Items where as mods on the rest of the armor are lack luster. The only ones of any real importance outside Class Item mods that I can think of that aren't Artifact Mods are the Reloader mods. 3) Elemental Mods and Mod Slots. As of right now I do not like this system. I feel like this system should be more like Warframe's system. If you try to slot a Solar mod into an Arc armor then it'll cost you an extra point to slot in. If you try to slot in a Solar mod into a Solar armor the cost of it is reduced by 1. But my biggest complaint with the system so far is very specific. Why in the world is Explosive Finisher Arc!?!? You have Invigoration, Outreach, Hands-On, and One-Two Finisher being Arc and all of them being Melee oriented mods. Then you have Innervation, Bomber, and Ashes to Assets (which are all Grenade oriented) all being Solar. Yet Explosive Finisher is Arc? So I can't synergize Explosive Finisher to its fellow Grenade mods? Who thought that was a good idea? 4) Fashion. Here is my biggest complaint about Armor 2.0. I was hoping that when Armor 2.0 came out I could grab Armor I have already collected from my Collections. Oh sure I was well prepared to have the rolls on those armor pieces to be basic and uninteresting as opposed to the ones I would be able to find in the wild, but how wrong was I? Not only can I not collect a huge chunk of the armor in my collections, the ones that I can reacquire still are Armor 1.0? With 1.0 slots? What!? So my solution to this annoying problem is that Bungie should just take every White, Green, Blue, and Purple armor and turn them into Universal Ornaments. Hecc I will happily grind Strikes, Lost Sectors, or Reward Packages to try and collect these Ornaments, just give me the option! Overall, a step in the right direction Bungie, but you have a lot of work still to do with this system.

Very sound feedback. upvoted.

I couldn’t agree more, 2.0 isn’t offering much over 1.0 except a reason to grind for the same stuff all over again and it’s disappointing so far.

Exactly. This new system gives you some control over what mods will be in your armor, but everything else is made worse: - most mods are limited to only work in one particular slot and with certain affinity; - mod combinations are limited even more because of affinity; - the cost of fitting the mods is too high (unless you're fine with only running a few crappy mods); - much less control over your statbuild; - in some situations the versatility of your set becomes worse than you had with Y2 armor because of all the above. People who say this system is better because it's made to last longer: that's purely because now devs have much more control over what perks you can combine, and can nerf any combination they find too OP. This system is more convenient for devs but for players it's much more limited than the previous one. And even with all these added limits devs also did their best to make the system even more grindier. How convenient it is for devs to also convert our old armor half-assedly and as the result make it much weaker it terms of stats. Upd: Funny thing is, if they make armor affinity switchable it won't affect game balancing, but it'll significantly reduce the grind and provide players with a bit more versatility.

Ask me there is no point to go past 3 energy on arms, legs, and class item. Just get a mod cause the armor perks are what ? Dex for slightly faster swap speed ? Loader for what a .3 seconds off reloads ? And healing when you pick up a orb of light ? Only helmets and chest are worth going up to 7 or 8 and that's if you even wanna use a mod with a perk. I mean helmets got those targeting perks which are a must period. While chest got unflinching perks. So yea just save your self some materials and just go up to 3 maybe 4 energy.

Aside from the new system adding even more grind in general, my biggest issue (at the moment) is not having a clear idea of what mods I’ve got and which go with what. It would be nice to have some way to see what mods I’ve unlocked instead of having to open every single piece of armor and inspecting each one while fighting with the stupid tooltip that keeps getting in the way. There are so many of these things now that keeping track of all the options is a pain in the ass so I just don’t even bother with it. Also what are we supposed to do with old mods in the Inventory tab? Can we delete those? Are they finite? Some of them don’t show up in the unlocked mods at all, is there a difference between old mods and new ones? In typical Bungie fashion we’re basically left to figure all of this out ourselves.

You have my vote up. 2.0 has better possibilities ‘if’ there weren’t so many obstacles and limitations. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/253951313/0/0 Did not see yours until after I had placed my own.

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I just wish that I could use my current armor as 2.0 without having to grind for it again because the system does look interesting. I spent all of year 1 in ninja pajamas and was happy when I got something that looked less cringey. None of my armor pops up as ornaments and Ive only gotten the boots to redrop so far. They should hand out some kind of token that allows you to reroll one or two of each piece you already have as 2.0. Im not really someone that cares what my character looks like but the pajama/biker pants and the sharp metallic hunter boots are crossing the line. Why does so much of the hunter armor look like its made of wetsuit material and what kind of killing machine wears pointed silver Stacy Adams when its time to do the killing? EDIT: After actually playing around with it for real for the first time today I have to say, I really like it. Plus I actually like the Dreambane Armor so I can wear that. Much more intuitive than the last system once you get used to it. I'd still like to see the elemental stuff go away, or be able to be switched up for cost in some kind of way, [b]and be able to use any armor that I have as an ornament though[/b]. The 10 prisms for one masterwork is a little much as well.

I deleted all my old gear on my warlock and terribly miss heavy ammo finder on a bond being it’s now weapon type specific finder. I still have a hunter cloak with it and will NEVER delete it.