Dear Bungie, I Love Love Love Destiny2. I’ve preordered every dlc including the original D2 drop. I have social anxiety disorders that affect my life in how I interact with others. I’ve had a rough time trying to Raid and with the PvP modes in destiny. After 3 clans and 25+ attempts at Leviathan raid I finally got a clear. I eventually found a clan of adults that were willing to teach Raids and cleated The rest of the Raids. But it took its toll on me. And I ended up seriously depressed and left the clan due to my social problems. As far as the PVP, I can’t seem to find equally matched opponents in the crucible. Everyone mops the floor with me over and over again. I’m looking for constructive advice. What should I do(besides get good)? Thanks in advance for any help.
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1 ReplyMate, either buy a new game, play solo, or just talk, it’s really not that hard. You’re not even in front of the people you’re talking to. You could be naked and no one will know 😂
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1 ReplyEdited by Ken_Malibu: 10/10/2019 8:10:11 AMGet yourself a copy of 'The Chimp Paradox'. Basically many of us have anxiety through irrational fears. The feelings are real but the reasoning is a little off. Nothing bad is going to happen but we tell ourselves otherwise. We often imagine calamity before attempting something or get easily put off if things go wrong one time, not realizing it will go right once we learn. Or if it does go wrong it's an opportunity to learn for the next attempt. It's how we grow. The way society is being conditioned is scary as hell. People are terrified of things they'll never fully experience for themselves. So many things to experience being missed out on. So many sad souls.
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I'm like you, but also stutter, and live in a really noisy house. Heres what I do. After 300 D1 yr1 raids with no mic, bungie made no mic raiding almost impossible, so I don't raid anymore, I tapered off after wrath. In crucible, mm ruins it by being non regional, matching russia n the middle East ruins the fun, so I play crucible for quests/bounties n that's it. I'm not amazing, I'm not terrible, I'm also not stupid. Play smart, bcoz lots of people aren't. Stay mid range, use a pulse or mida, don't get stressed when you die, just practice, no one cares but you, so do what makes you happy. Do what you enjoy, don't do what makes you uncomfortable, there's no need to put yourself through it. Good luck
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I’ve done multiple raids without mics and without even listening to other people in the raid talking. I even did the last encounter in CoS during a flawless run completely without party chat working. There is no raid encounter that requires everyone to have mics and be in chat so social anxiety isn’t really an excuse. Just make a post being clear about your situation and people who understand will help you through it.
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When you need to get something done, make an LFG post with the "no mic" tag. For PvE content, watch guides on Youtube and know the encounters like the back of your hand going in. After a couple runs, Raids start to feel like strikes. They aren't this insurmountable thing to stress about, it can just be another weekly thing that you can knock out. For PvP, the same thing applies. Group up with other people that aren't using mics and listen to music when you play. There is some light lobby balancing that occurs, so don't just try to group up with PvP gods. Just grab the first couple of people that respond to your post and see how it works out for a few games. If you need to, run the meta, but just try and have fun. Skill will naturally come during the journey. Trust me dude, most of the people I've met through LFG are pretty awkward when you first meet. Once you push through that awkward introductory phase, you'll meet some cool people. You know that you at least have D2 in common right? Who knows what else.
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Sorry in advance for the wall of text!! Really, the best thing I can say to help out would be to take a breath... then to take the plunge. I have similar issues, most of which revolve around me potentially being a trash clan leader... but it's all about taking that initial plunge into something. The pvp aspect of it, all I can really say is to practice. Find a set up that you enjoy and works well for YOU and practice with it. For me, I settled in on a veist scout rifle for my energy slot and a shotgun for my kinetic. It's not the greatest, but it is a fun way to play, at least for me. I swap subclasses every so often to avoid getting too reliant on one super or another, but most times I end up with nova warp or top tree stormcaller. Loading into a private lobby and just exploring the little nooks and crannies of a map helps out a bit as well. Mod set up is also a very huge part of it as well, especially now with armor 2.0. That set up tip I gave in the paragraph above? Find mods that compliment that set up so you can play at your best. I don't have a scoutrifle mod for my warlock, so I'm settling for the generic unflinching rifle aim and precision weapon targeting for the helmet. Takes a bit of investment to get the armor to where you want it to be at, but when you get there, it's totally worth it. For the social anxiety... I'm afraid I can't help you there. I know what works for me, and I have an idea of what works for my friends, but each individual is different in how they process things that go on and in how they handle the end result of an action or interaction. Best thing I can advise is to try out different things for handling any situation and go with what works the best for you. I hope this helps!!
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16 RepliesPut your big boy pants on, and put the controller down, and go outside. Learn to handle the beatings life gives you, before you try tackling imagination-land of destiny.
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Best way to deal with Anxiety is to Face it head on. You cant hide forever.
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2 RepliesI’m sorry dude but I don’t think there’s anything they can do about this. And truth be told I know I’m not in your shoes but I’ve never given a fûck what people think and that has taken me further than you’d expect socially.
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Trust me- the anxiety of it kinda sucks, I’ve got it pretty bad too. Social anxiety is a big problem for me as well. But I’ve also been raiding with the forum system for as long as I’ve been playing destiny. It takes getting used too but after awhile you get comfortable with raiding and doing other activities with strangers. It just takes some time getting used to it. We’re all guardians anyway right?
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1 ReplyDude, you gotta just face your social anxiety and find a way to get over it. I have minor social anxiety as well, but I ignore it and just talk. It's all in your head, and you can train yourself to not let it get the better of you. Once you start making excuses for yourself it sort of makes you seem pathetic. It's not even like you have to talk that much. Most of the time you only really need to listen to instructions and call out when you need to. Just suck it up and grow a spine. You need a little tough love, my man. I'm hoping you get over your mental blocks.
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Raids are designed to be team based and if they removed that it wouldn’t be a raid. Luckily a new dungeon will be coming out soon and with it you can get a raid like experience solo.
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I'm sorry, but there is no in-game advice I can ask of you. People have dynamic experiences. I would suggest seeking outside help if it bothers you that much.
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1 ReplyBro you really need to go to therapy or something.
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It's okay to have low points, most folks in real clans get that not everybody gets a ton of free time to play, and the real cool dudes also get the everybody has bad days. Check up on your old clan, heck the clan I was in back in D1 broke up before destiny 2 came out, and somehow most of us have ended up in the same clan after shadowkeep came out. If you can't find the clan then just try checking up on some of the folks you played with most
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Raids are a problem for adults in general, simply due to an excessive time commitment required. This may affect the demographics and expectations of the raiding population considerably. (never managed to do a single raid... Where do you people get 2hr+ of uninterrupted time?)
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1 ReplyLearn the mystic art of DISCO DANCE. This power will create a vortex of social serenity that will lead to dominance of your world,and maximum head discombobulation. Dance,dance,dance,dance.
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4 RepliesGo to a shrink or your PCP and get some type of SSRI, SNRI, etc and take them. Problem solved. *note* They may take 3-4 weeks to take full effect.
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3 RepliesI hate playing with others where I have to talk to them. I just don’t enjoy it (apart from one or two good friends). Hate raiding because of this. Honestly, raids and other parts of the game that require that sort of communication just aren’t for you, and that’s fine. Just don’t play them. I don’t. I would love them to change a lot about the game to suit me, and I’ll continue to give feedback on what I want, but in the end they won’t change anything to suit you. Best option would be some sort of therapy sessions etc to see if you can get on top of it (honest advice, not making fun or anything). Otherwise see if you can have fun with what’s available in the game without chat. If not, time to try another game.
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2 RepliesWhat do you do? See a professional. Seek out professional help on how to get rid of your social anxiety in real life. Don’t worry about the game, worry about the real world.
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You gave me an idea.
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1 ReplyJust solo the raid
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for Crucible, Do not take it seriously and do not play to win, but play to learn. Apart from, playing CoD 2, Quake, Counter Strike back in high school years (those are about 15 years ago), I did not play PvP. I, honestly, learnt how to be a PvP player in Destiny 1 with Thorn quest which was a lot more punishing than D2 version. It takes time for non PvP players to get over nervousness of playing against other players that are a lot better than you especially if you have anxiety issues. you will never improve overnight, and if you are below average player, playing with below average players also will not help you apart from confidence boost which is also welcome. We bash streamers here but some of them gives amazing PvP advise for players like you. Watch them, and try to remember (even I do not remember doing what they say most of the time in the heat of a match), if you cannot do them well or at all, do not worry just keep trying. After a while, some of the moves you had troubles remembering becomes reflexes. However, when it comes to Raids, communication is paramount and you will need to fins like minded people to do it together or ignore it all together.
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You on PS4? I’ll game with you so long as you don’t cuss like a sailor. Basic advice: -Raids: LFG will either bless you or hose you, just gotta keep trying. -Crucible: Stick with a teammate in the top 2, support their actions. Use long ranged weapons first since they’re more forgiving, then as you gain confidence go for more close in weaponry. Now, don’t stack long range, keep an auto, SMG, or sidearm for close combat just in case someone closes the distance. Play the objective! I can’t count the number of matches I’ve lost because blueberries got more kills but ignored the zones in control. Cap the zones! Disrupt the Spawns! -Don’t use OEM because the hate mail will NOT help your anxiety. Cheers! [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]
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Edited by WP ScorpionWind: 10/10/2019 4:48:20 AMAs someone who use to have real bad social anxiety because of Autism and an inability to read social cues until about 6-7 years ago, I can tell you, you really just have to deal with it man. If you want to learn how to do the raids, go to youtube and watch a video. This is a social game, and if you're going to play you have to be willing to play with others. As far as the PvP, we all have those matches and a lot of people don't like it but we just deal with it and move on. Some might get verbal, but we still deal with it and move on. That's just how this works.
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I have anxiety too. It’s gotten better for me but I have my bad days. I play with the same few friends. We usually have two spots to fill if you play on Xbox id be totally down to do a raid with you.