The man is horrible I tell ya! [i]*crumples pathetically*[/i]

Wasn't it only going after Uldren in forsaken he disagreed with? He was fine before that [spoiler]Either way he's a big blue nonce[/spoiler]

Gotta butter you up and make you like Zavala before we get that Fabian Strategy quest. >.>

That’s because he’s soft. That fool wanted to jump ship long ago. That isn’t a real Titan. He most certainly has hunter blood running through his veins wanting to tuck tail and run away all the time. Bottom Fragger!

Forgive Zavala? For what? Not invading a foreign nation over the death of one man, and leaving the City defenseless in the process? A move that would have been [i]really bad[/i] considering that events like Zero Hour show that the City is still under direct threat? There's a military difference between dropping Guardians in the Queen's territory without her consent to kill her brother, and fending off an invasion on our metaphorical shores. For not trusting Ana and Rasputin, when the former is irresponsible enough to go AWOL for decades - ignoring situations where the City needed her most in order to unsuccessfully piece together her past - and the latter has protocols like Midnight Exigent which allow it to place humanity at a lower priority, which is mildly concerning given its "I'm pretty much a god, I'll do whatever I feel like" speech at the end of Warmind? Or is it for reprimanding The Guardian that one time for just wandering off and running Ana's errands for a few weeks? I'm genuinely - not even being facetious here - wondering what wrong he's done.

People hated on Zavala for no reason. He the freaking leader of the guardians. He unfortunately didn't have time to avenge cayde. Which is understandable, but most people didnt used their brains and deemed him a coward but hey im just a titan, what do i know

Well, a mass congregation of darkness on the moon and a full system vex invasion do seem a little high on the "take care of" list. He probably had those written in red, with little exclamation points next to them.

I agree that he's been very cool this dlc, but I honestly think it's nothing new to him either. He's actually a pretty good leader.

You know he's got a line where he says he knows how you felt, and asks if you ever thought about how he felt

The Speaker: The stories tell of a golden age long ago, when our civilization spanned the system. It was a bright and hopeful time. But it didn't last. Something hit us. Knocked us down and tried to stamp us out. No one knows exactly what, but we do know this: very few of us survived, and those that did owe their lives to the The Traveler. Legends say The Traveler sacrificed itself to save us. The mysterious sphere still hangs where it made its last stand, low above the Earth, keeping silent watch. The years that followed the collapse of the golden age were hard, but slowly we joined together to build a city beneath The Traveler. And now we've begun to venture back into the wild, only to find that we're not alone. Strange and deadly creatures have occupied our old worlds. And they're pressing hard against The City, probing for a weakness, trying to stamp us out for good. Your story begins at this moment of great adventure and peril. You are a Guardian of The City; a soldier able to wield some of The Traveler's incredible power. If you can find a way to save The City - to reclaim all that we have lost - you will become legend. If you fail, the last light of civilization will go out! The stories tell of a golden age long ago, when our civilization spanned the system. It was a bright and hopeful time. But it didn't last. Something hit us. Knocked us down and tried to stamp us out. No one knows exactly what, but we do know this: very few of us survived, and those that did owe their lives to the The Traveler. Legends say The Traveler sacrificed itself to save us. The mysterious sphere still hangs where it made its last stand, low above the Earth, keeping silent watch. The years that followed the collapse of the golden age were hard, but slowly we joined together to build a city beneath The Traveler. And now we've begun to venture back into the wild, only to find that we're not alone. Strange and deadly creatures have occupied our old worlds. And they're pressing hard against The City, probing for a weakness, trying to stamp us out for good. Your story begins at this moment of great adventure and peril. You are a Guardian of The City; a soldier able to wield some of The Traveler's incredible power. If you can find a way to save The City - to reclaim all that we have lost - you will become legend. If you fail, the last light of civilization will go out! The stories tell of a golden age long ago, when our civilization spanned the system. It was a bright and hopeful time. But it didn't last. Something hit us. Knocked us down and tried to stamp us out. No one knows exactly what, but we do know this: very few of us survived, and those that did owe their lives to the The Traveler. Legends say The Traveler sacrificed itself to save us. The mysterious sphere still hangs where it made its last stand, low above the Earth, keeping silent watch. The years that followed the collapse of the golden age were hard, but slowly we joined together to build a city beneath The Traveler. And now we've begun to venture back into the wild, only to find that we're not alone. Strange and deadly creatures have occupied our old worlds. And they're pressing hard against The City, probing for a weakness, trying to stamp us out for good. Your story begins at this moment of great adventure and peril. You are a Guardian of The City; a soldier able to wield some of The Traveler's incredible power. If you can find a way to save The City - to reclaim all that we have lost - you will become legend. If you fail, the last light of civilization will go out!

anyone else kinda sad how arrogant both vanguard reps seemed to be at the end of the campaign? like sorry guys, we're ultimately F'ed

I think he’s just chilled now. Look at ikora, she used to be so confident and now she’s turned into a high strong warlock. The red war messed with the guardians cannonly and I think cayde’s death messed with his friends. I mean it’s cannon Zavala and ikora are messing around, I can more than bet cayde was messing around with them too.

I have spoken to Zavala and corrected this mistake. Please return to hating Zavala. That is all.