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Difference between Not Forgotten and "Bought Forgotten"

This is more so regarding the self-righteousness of people who presume that if you have the NF, that you must have obviously bought it, particularly if you are not consistently at the top of the board. Let me get this out of the way - I was par if not sub-par at best in PvP for the longest time for the following reasons: 1) I kept playing Crucible like I played CoD 2) Lack of familiarity with the weapons 3) Not knowing the maps 4) Not going for precision blows 5) Only focusing on the objective (specifically in Control) 6) my biggest problem is raging (going on tilt) which will turn me into a 0.1 k/d real fast (I will figuratively ONLY go for the last guy who killed me). So, once I forced myself into PvP to get the Ace, I got comfortable with HC's, which lead me to get others such as Malfeasance, Thorn, Lumina, etc, and eventually the Luna's and NF. Did I do it by myself, absolutely not. I was carried - that much I'll admit, but nothing to the extent of hiring pros to do it for me. Now, on to the issue at hand. I've received a lot of flack from people assuming incorrectly that I have the "Bought Forgotten" because I'm not on top of the board 100% of the time. First of all, I've been in matches where I had 22 kills, and I was second from the bottom. 2nd, there are only certain weapons I am comfortable using - pulse rifles, and hand cannons, and I figured this out recently (while going for Redrix). If you ever see me playing without a pulse/hc, I am most likely going for a quest, but in the end, you'll notice my game play results are extremely erratic. Do I think I'm good in Crucible - absolutely not. Some matches I'll top the board, other matches, I'll find myself at the bottom with negative kills - all depends on mood, time of day, how long I've been playing, and oddly enough, which map I'm on. Did I sweat out the grind - I can honestly say "no". But I will say this - a combination of which weapons I learned to use effectively, using a Scuf controller (yes, it made me better), and telling myself to calm down when an Erentil one shots me from across the map through two brick walls and a tree. Does that make me a bad player/cheater? Give me your thoughts, and please be respectful, and I will return it in kind. I appreciate constructive criticism, but putting others down, being pretentious, and rude will not be tolerated.

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  • Why does it even matter? It's a game. I don't see why others care how they got a pixelated item in a game. It doesn't do a thing in the real world. It definitely won't get you laid. It won't get you a raise or a promotion at work. I just don't see why others care what they spend money on.

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    • You may not have bought your NF, but someone definitely played comp in your stead to get it. It's very easy to tell from your games. You have a stretch of games about a month ago with a high win rate and good performance. This is definitely not you playing. 6 days ago you wanted to try your hand at comp yourself I assume and you went down from 5500 to 4000 and change with an average kd of what looks to be 0.2. Not forgotten will not make you better as I am sure you've come to understand. If getting better in crucible is important to you, I'd recommend watching some videos of high skilled players and playing rumble to develop individual skill. Rumble, like iron banner, is generally easier on new crucible players due to sbmm.

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        When you use NF destiny players feel they have the right to say anything to you cause your a scumbag. If you Top frag then why are you in quick play you sweaty try hard. If you have a bad match “ bough Forgotten” . Basically their jealousy is uncontrollable and they have to say something to you. It is what it is.

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        • I’m of the mindset that cheesing/cheating in games isn’t a big deal...so long as your cheesing/cheating doesn’t affect others. However if you pay/get carried to a certain weapon and then proceed to use said weapon on others in PvP, it’s pretty scummy. No, you didn’t pay, but you didn’t actually earn the damn thing either so you may as well have “Bought Forgotten”.

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        • Kinda similar with Luna. I mean....I've seen some bad people with nf. And I mean BAD. But you're right the gun doesn't really automatically make you a God player. Your skill does that

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          People also have this idea that all NF owners are Crucible Gods. Not true at all. I got NF. I'm maybe a little above average, if that. Know how I got it? I got bullied by better players at Mythic rank. I practiced. I got a little more consistent, but more importantly, I found my role within the team. Then I woke up at 3 a.m. to avoid streamers and recovs. Casual players have a 0% chance of beating the gatekeepers within comp, so just don't do it. They play comp all day every day, so leave them to eachother. I played against players who were just like me; average players making up great teams and going for NF.

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        • You don't even have to pay. Most of them are filtering out servers to matchmake with their friends to wintrade. The ones that pay do it to avoid the risk of getting banned later but it doesn't change the fact that someone who didn't earn it would never be as good as someone who did. https://youtu.be/kl8vzMZp3q8 the exploit been around since trials and those people who abused it were banned therea an article about it.

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        • A gun is a gun. I never understood why anyone would pay upwards of $500+ for a digital gun when you can buy a real one for less. Everyone has good games and bad games. It doesn't matter what guns you have or earned.

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          • I just wish NF was good on MnK with how much off a grind it was.

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          • I could probably get it legit if I put myself to it, but it's not worth my sanity.

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            • If anyone sees someone with NF and they aren’t leading that’s what they assume.

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            • You can tell when someone didn’t earn their NF. Most of the time, it’s obvious that they research the weapon and would kick your ass anyway. There’s a discord server where you can check people to see if they boosted or not. https://discord.gg/Xhp6PdF

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            • If I match someone in QP that has NF and they are doing awful/not putting up a good fight in our 1v1s I will assume they got recoved. I don't blame them for doing bad against me though. I'm not an average player which is usually who they match against.

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              I also used curated bygones one ,eyed mask, and a telesto when it was meta to get it! Before mountaintop or recluse.

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            • Only 22 kills? 40+ is where a legend player should be

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                Grinding away the points to NF congrats what a grind, I have Luna’s and I’m working on NF. But I will admit I got carried a lot too and I still have my $ in my own pocket!

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              • If I ever get not forgotten it'll be from me being carried. But I won't pay for it. I certainly won't pay for a recovery. I don't trust people I don't know. And if the new matchmaking algorithm works the way bungie says then having a pro play on my account will only make my pvp experience worse in the long run. Yes I'll have not forgotten but all of my matches will be against people I shouldn't be playing against. But at least you have to play on your own account for a carry. And if nobody is cheating I got no complaints.

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              • You can still get carried to Not Forgotten even if you didnt buy a Bought Forgotten.

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