1. Maps are too small. When you're playing control and you punch through 3 guardians to get to a zone A and then all 3 of them spawn behind zone A, that's how you know PvP spawns were designed by kindergarten children. 2. Heavy spawns too frequently. After 3 minutes, every death is an OHKO via heavy. The winner of PvP games is determined by who can camp heavy the best, not by who plays the game right. 3. After 4 minutes, it's basically fist of havoc titans running around in constant super. Kill, respawn, killed by the same super. Read #1 over again. And these people want their other fist of havoc buffed? Get out of dodge. So every PvP match is basically 3 minutes of actual combat, and then heavy camp and supers for the rest of it. There is no selection of weapons or skill that can overcome constant supers and heavy. How exactly does one outgun guardians who are romping around with one shot kill stuff the whole time? This stupid ass company (and its stupid ass flagship streamer) nerfed auto reload because it "trivialized the game". Between fist of havoc, OEM titans, constant heavy drops, and garbage spawns, I think you nerfed the wrong thing. At least auto reload is fun. PvP is so absurdly bad and unfun that it would be a step forward to kill off Shaxx and close it down for good. The garbage mechanics, stupid spawns, and constant heavy/super trivializes this game more than auto reload ever did. OH and if you're a solo queue against a clan? Might as well quit. Like seriously. Also, the fact that an EDZ triumph is "kill guardians in crucible/gambit with thorn" is, by far, the most heavy handed "forcing players to play PvP" thing I've ever seen. That needs to be removed from EDZ and placed where it belongs, in the crucible section. It's not a pve triumph, don't put it with the other pve triumphs. Jesus Christ.