In Spire of Stars. Encounter one wipe screen counts how long we Have our lanterns/pillars up for and who lit the pure/through the ball into the pot. There is no gain from doing it longer than intend, delaying the final ball toss. Phase 1 of the boss, requires us to not -blam!- up while attempting to destroy 3 ships. The wipe screen shows weapons charged and ships destroyed. there are only 3 ships to destroy in ph 1 and technically only 3x to arm a weapon. Ph 2 has 6 ships with the options to be destroyed as we have to get two at a time. We also have to arm two weapons. I sherpa a lot of folks through spire and teaching the mechanics and inner workings of how to get to boss DPS. The wipe screen shows us how many ships destroyed. Boss damage, and weapons armed. There is no bonus for taking out all 6 ships. There’s has never been a bonus for going over the allowed amount of damage phases for a boss. Every boss gets enraged for a reason and tries to wipe you because you as a team have failed. That’s not a goal people aim to achieve. I will teach people Spire and they will carry out their roles as best as possible to get a 1 ph. If they are coordinated to arm in under 30/40 secs and line up perfectly for ball passes and damage they deserve to 1 ph. Cause they have their shit together. I and 5 copies of myself can act nonchalant and carry out 3 long dmg phases for Spire in Val fair because I can do each role perfectly, add clear, dmg, callouts. That doesn’t make my reward sweeter. I still want to be done as quickly as possible. If I want that challenge I’ll play prestige. Bungie made their game this way and even nerfed EP because of it. I’ll 1 phase as much as I can. If we can’t 1 ph, we get bosses like Shuro Chi, locked behind rng puzzles and a timer made solely to slip up players .its dumb. I feel you that raid bosses should feel like big encounters, but Spire is a lair and last wish has its moments of decent boss fights. But on one hand you have something easy like Morgeth, and then on the bad side Shuro Chi.

Spire is just broke, tho. Also, Shuro Chi being a damage check boss with a side of puzzles [i]is kind of the point of the encounter.[/i] If the plates puzzle wasn't prone to breaking, the encounter would be pretty good.

They should be once you get powerful enough.

They should only be one phased if your run is perfect, not cause of a single ability + power level

I agree with the ability part. However, I feel if you become more and more powerful, things should pose less a challenge. And if it gets to the point of too easy, then have increased difficulty levels, more mechanics, modifiers, ect.

Bungies boss design is the problem. When immovable bosses just stand there moaning while players shoot his stomach, followed by a boss hand wave to shoot at again afterwards...is bad raid design. If the bosses had any sort of movement mechanic/dmg phase to not encourage gaurdians to just stand stationary and unleash dmg, would fix alot of problems.