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9/3/2019 3:03:26 PM
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warlock, titan reload nerf
warlock's solar tree third ult (with lunafaction boots), and titan's rally barricades is very important abilities of PvE.
we sow your mention of that abilities' nerf.
you said 'new light' is makes many new users.
but we, Korean users say that nerf is bad decision because this nerf will make new users hard to play and existing user will not play this game more.
PvE contents are not compete between users.
so don't nerf ability that is about PvE contents thoughtlessly.
and if you nerf someone, test long time about it, and if this nerf don't have a great influence.
this is Korean users' advice.
we hope you don't silly anymore.
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This is such a simple solution, don't spend anymore money on this game. Bungie just announced that Forsaken owners get Year 2 annual pass for free. So why buy Shadowkeep? Why buy silver? And most importantly stop supporting YouTubers and streamers that rant about the game. Problem solved, when Bungie isn't making money then, and only then will they ever take the entire community seriously.
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This topic came up on another post....this was my reply: This is the result of a lack of creativity on Bungies raid dev's. It's been the same basic raid processes since D1: Shoot the boss, do a dance, jump on a plate in some kind of order, shoot something in order, and kill the glowing guy to get the boss's shield to drop and then DPS him while he is standing in the same place and unless he is stomping on you he...….NEVER MOVES. Because he never moves wells, bubbles, lunafaction, barriers, etc all work so bungies typical response is to Nerf it and hardcore PVE community thinks its a great idea so there is no 1 phase. How about make a raid boss actually do something other than stand in one place like a dumb shit waiting to be shot in the face and occasionally shooting back while guardians are flying all over the place doing some stupid puzzle to make the boss vulnerable??? Bottom line: Its not the gun, armor, or ability....its that the boss just doesn't move making all the aforementioned seem OP.
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They might as well Luna faction boots legendary the perk that made them exotic is being taken out
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10 RepliesRally barricade should be the only auto reload. Not only does it make Titan viable but has been one of the very few things keeping them viable. It’s stupid to try and compare well with Lunas to rally. Well: DMG Boost, constant regen overshield and health. And auto reload and it does not go away after taking too much damage. Rally Barricade: Very small AoE. Provides very little cover from incoming fire and will shatter upon taking enough damage.
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1 ReplyI think rally Barricade should keep the auto reload because it doesn't offer a damage bonus
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Datto does not care bro. He needs the raid to be exciting the 1000 time he does this week and he can’t do that in a rift. He spoke Bungie listen and this is the world we live in.
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4 RepliesCommunity - Bungie, we want things to be a little more challanging. Better, smarter enemies that dont rely on mechanics that were used in 1999 like stomp. We want more variety in how we go at attempting each activity every time we attempt it Bungie - Ok we hear you, but hear us out. Making content is hard for us. It burns us out and makes us not want to work on our game anymore to the point we come into work in our pajamas, even though we had 2 other studios helping us. So we're instead just going to nerf [b][i][u]YOU[/u][/i][/b] into oblivion that way WE dont have to input any actuall effort so we can kick our feet up and pat each other on the back because working on content is hard and requires us to think, and our brain no like to do the think. Enjoy
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Another useless Warlock exotic coming right up!
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It's a wise decision in the long run, they cannot continue to build the game around these abilities.
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3 RepliesBungie should have buffed the AI for enemies instead of nerfing things. OP strats only exist in PvE because of bad Raid/encounter designs, and bad AI.
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4 RepliesWhat about hunter dodge? It reloads instantly like rally and activated kill clip.
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3 RepliesSo lunification boots are basically ophidian aspect but require a well. Yeah that's definitely never going to see the light of day in my vault.
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non bias poll 👍
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1 ReplyYep, they are so important that they had to design activites around them. I'm good with the nerf myself.
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9 Replies-blam!- bungie. Lunafaction boots were one of the few warlock exotics that felt like an exotic. What's next? Crown of Tenpests and Geomags make arc supers too long so they'll change it to not do that anymore? There is no reason to use, own, or even keep a pair of em in the vault anymore. Another piece of beloved gear shredded for no damn good reason except Bungie hates fun and streamers asked for it. I hate this game.
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We did just fine without them in D1, you'll live
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24 RepliesYou can blame all the hunter mains.
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Edited by Kiro - 13: 9/4/2019 5:08:37 PMIts a matter of game design philosophy. You can build a large player group 2 ways. Team work or class required ability's. I made this suggestion on the forums back in year one saying they should design raid fights that REQUIRE a warlock to do X roll, titan do Y roll, and hunter do Z roll. The idea stems from World of Warcraft in its early days before all classes gain the same ability as others. An example of this would be you had to bring shadow priests because they were the only mana return class. Its a grand idea that creates meaning in the class you decide to roll. HOWEVER, this is not popular with the average user. Most players work 9-5 jobs or have school and cant afford to dedicate 5 hours to something a day. They want to log in and down the latest boss. It was nice that Bungie put this into to practice but now with the shift to self publishing they can no longer afford to cater to the 15%.(in busniess you have a 15% & 85%, the 15% make up your specialized customers where you dont make to much profit but you gain their loyalty. and the 85% thats the common folk.) So it comes down to you the community. Do you want more elitism or something you can log into and feel instant gratification? This is obviously a rhetorical question because the instant gratification common folk voiced their opinion and they are the ones that generate most of Bungies revenue. I am sure I will get down votes and be called elitist for the contents of this post. But its a undisputed fact. WoW had the same issue after Sunwell Plateau, they drove off the best of the best in favor of targeting a larger audience. I dont blame Bungie for it as they are first and foremost a business and their end goal is to make money.
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19 Replies*Me laughing at people having to learn legit riven now.*
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While the auto-reload offered some lesser used things like Merciless to shine, it just ends up being a big buff to the best of the best too. I'm fine with it as long as the reload speed is *VERY* noticeable, but doesn't completely break the game.
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6 RepliesI actually really like this change. Primarily because everything having instant reload potential kind of makes Whisper pointless to have over DARCI, but now Whisper might break back in a little since it's the only weapon in the game that has instant reload without requiring a kill once this goes live, AFAIK anyway. Also we'll see way, way less one-phasing off bosses now. Bosses in general, not just raid bosses. The PoE Servitor is actually a gigantic pain to fight if you don't wipe it before it starts spawning adds. I think it's a [i]smart[/i] adjustment, if nothing else.
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4 RepliesI don't really care about it. I just can't wait for them to nerf Titan bubble.
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19 RepliesIf auto reload is taken away on rally and lunas then it's only fair it gets removed on gamblers dodge to right? BuT ItS OnLy OnE ReLoAd HuNtErS aRe uNdErPowErEd As Is. Counter argument get -blam!-ed
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bungee hate titans, that's official. I guess some sandbox designer was injured by titan spoon while playing in sandpit. And what's the point of rally barricade now, give you universal "enhanced loader"? I mean we already have capped reloading speed (thus any rapid hit+outlaw+reload MW weapons really make me laugh). At least make it wider, I dunno. Titans are as popular as white crayon in PvE. #titansmatter
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Edited by Kevin: 9/4/2019 11:28:03 AMHard to play? Lunas and Rally allowed you to just stand there and sink dps into a boss freely, it makes things boring. It makes encounters because every time it’s just plant well, fire infinitely, rinse and repeat. If people consider not having auto reload as “hard” than I’m actually disappointed.
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It doesn’t affect me, pve is boring anyways. Pvp is not any better but at least its more entertaining. I play warlock so its not like it bothers me, now Ill be able to use whatever class I want without being pressured to use a certain exotic in raids
