I refuse to believe that a Spartan's armor can weigh 4,000 pounds. The suit has to be hollow first off to allow room for the Spartan which is probably no more than 250 pounds. Judging by how big a Spartan is in reference to a marine who often has skin exposed, I'd estimate the armor is less than an inch thick in most places except for the chest and upper back.
There is no way that that armor weighs 4,000 pounds. Unless in 500 years they've discovered some new material (Nibbler's poop) that weighs an absurd amount and offers NO protection, I refuse to believe its 4,000 pounds.
Seriously, you're better off being naked than wearing this horrible armor. Those poor tax payers who funded these idiotic projects...
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Well, whoever told you a spartan's armour weighs 4000 is wrong.
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Mjolnir mark VI weighs 100lbs plus the spartan wearing the suit. Helmet: The MJOLNIR Helmet is one of the most vital aspects to the MJOLNIR system. It is made of Titanium and contains key features like a Heads Up Display that links to the brain and hands, and can identify equipment and display information about it when it is picked up by the wearer. Another feature is the direct neural interface system which connects to a SPARTAN-IIs neural implants. Two core processor chips are implanted into the subjects skull in the rear of the head. This is essentially comparable to an on board computer using parts of the human brain for processing - when the connector at the rear of the subjects head and receptors in the brain link to the helmets on board sensors it creates the neural link needed to move the MJOLNIR suit. The helmet also contains other equipment to protect and aid the user in hostile conditions. This includes: filters to remove toxins from the atmosphere, a supply to provide air to the wearer during EVA, thermal and motion sensors, communications, solar-powered lighting, and imaging and video gear. The helmet also contains the A.I housing, where a ship-borne A.I chip is inserted, located on the back of the helmet. Titanium Alloy Outer Shell: The outer shell of the MJOLNIR armor is comprised of a fairly thick titanium alloy. This plating covers the chest, arms, hip, legs, calves, feet and hands. This alloy is very resilient, can take significant punishment, and is nearly impervious to small arms fire. While enough shots from armor piercing rounds will breach the outer shell, the suit can take a few glancing blows from them without compromising the armor. The outer shell of the all MJOLNIR suits is covered with a refractive coating to help disperse the heat experienced from Covenant energy weapons. However one or two direct hits from any Plasma weapon will compromise the armor plating. Titanium Nanocomposite Bodysuit: Sandwiched between the external armor and the internal padding is a thick black armored bodysuit. This suit has numerous functions, small but vital to the safety and survival of the wearer. The bodysuit is made of a titanium-based material, making it very strong and yet very flexible. It also serves as another layer of protection against ballistics attacks and is coated with a heat resistant material to disperse heat from Plasma weapons. Hydrostatic Gel: Underneath the armored bodysuit is a gel-filled layer, this gel layer regulates the temperature of the suit and can re actively change its density to conform to the wearer's shape - the temperature inside the suit is controlled by the moisture absorbing cloth suit underneath the hydrostatic layer. The hydrostatic gel layer can also be pressurized to various levels to potentially save the wearers life should the wearer be subjected to high G forces or a high velocity impact; however, over pressurizing this layer can cause nitrogen embolisms.[7] Reactive Metal Liquid Crystal Layer: Sandwiched between the external armor and the internal padding, the liquid crystal layer of the suit is split into two sections that forms the inner structure of the suit. The first layer contains the Reactive Metal Liquid Crystal this reactive metal increases the strength, reaction time, mobility, speed, and all around physical performance of the SPARTAN-II. The section layer supports suit's artificial intelligence, knitted together at a molecular level and fitted in between the outer plates and the inner padding. This type of computer memory is usually outfitted on a warship and as such this layer accounts for over eighty percent of the MJOLNIR armor's cost of construction and materials. Magnetic Weapon Holder Strips: Available on the Mk. IV, Mk. V, and Mk. VI the magnetic strips are very small yet powerful magnets place on the legs, waist, and back of the suit and is used to hold any equipment with a magnetic property. The suit also contains an electromagnetic system on the boots of the MJOLNIR suit that allow its wearer to stay attached to a metal surface in Zero G environments and can be toggled on or off by the wearer. Shields: First used on the Mk. V, and later refined on the Mk. VI, the energy shield device is reversed engineered from Covenant technology. Begun in 2532[8] forty scientists and technicians would spend the next 20 years attempting to make some use of the technology. For decades the attempts at cracking their technology had met with failure after failure, some had given up and others in the scientific community believed the energy shield technology could never be cracked. However at some point before 2552 a breakthrough was made and for the first time the UNSC had successfully cracked and improved upon the technology.[9] Pressure Seal: The Pressure Seal is a vital component to the MJOLNIR system, it keeps the system airtight, underwater or in space. The seal is very strong and will only break under extreme pressure, such as in a high velocity impact or when the Hydrostatic Gel has been over pressurized. Automatic Biofoam Injectors: Introduced on the Mk. VI models Biofoam injectors is an integral part of the systems ability to keep a SPARTAN-II functioning in battle. Biofoam is a medical gel that is used to fill and seal a wound automatically, it is also used to treat any infection that could occur as a result of the wound. The process of injecting, or applying the gel to a wound is extremely painful and is only a temporary solution; medical attention must be sought soon after to ensure survivability. Fusion Reactor: The fusion reactor is the most essential part of the MJOLNIR System, as it provides power to all equipment on the MJOLNIR armor - the reactor is built into the suit and allows for nearly unlimited movement. The fusion reactor in all versions of the MJOLNIR armor are half the size of a normal fusion pack that conventional marines carry around.[10] Force-Multiplying Circuits: Located throughout the armor, these systems boost the force applied by the user. They make hand-to-hand combat easier, but also make the armor difficult to adjust to; a slight motion can be translated into a potentially harmful one if not conducted correctly. For this reason it is only possible for Spartans to use this armor, as their strengthened bodies are able to withstand the increased power and speed of movement, which, in un-augmented human bodies, results in broken bones or death, due to spasms caused by the pain of broken bones. Reactive Circuits: Reactive Circuits are systems installed directly linked to the Spartan Neural Interface. They amplify the wearer's reaction time by connecting directly to the thoughts of the wearer, making it much easier to control and allowing for the soldier to be both more efficient and have a higher survival rate in combat. Power Supply Control Unit: The Power Supply Control Unit controls the power supply of the armor. enjoy the wall of text, if you actually read it all, it should clearify things for you. [Edited on 10.06.2010 6:09 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] leetS fo sllaB Is there anything else you can tell me? Just layout anything you know regarding that suit of armor. The one MC wears because it seems to be the only one that is mildly effective in combat. Spartan 3s... LOL[/quote] Master Chief's and Noble Team's Mjolnir suits have the same basic design. A hydrostatic gel is the inner most layer. It regulates the temperature and pressure experienced by the wearer by altering its density. The armor is "locked" when the gel is at very high density and this can help the Spartan survive extreme kinetic impacts. The reactive liquid crystal is over the gel, it amplifies the Spartans motions giving increased strength. Then there's the matte black bodysuit which seals the semifluid inner layers and provides protection. It's made of a woven titanium composite. And finally the outer plates. They're also made of a very strong titanium composite and are have an ablative coating to disperse plasma. EDIT: actually the innermost layer is a moisture absorbent cloth, but that doesn't do much other than keep bare skin away from the gel and mop up the Spartan's sweat and blood. [Edited on 10.06.2010 5:44 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] felmore the armor is 454.5 kg, add in the spartan inside the suit for the full 500kg give or take.[/quote] so you think a spartan weighs less than 50kg? dont make me laugh
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the armor is 454.5 kg, add in the spartan inside the suit for the full 500kg give or take.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EldritchWarlord [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] leetS fo sllaB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EldritchWarlord A Spartan wearing Mjolnir armor weighs about half a ton (1000 lbs) total. That's the Spartan [b][u]and[/u][/b] the Spartan's armor. Spartan's are significantly heavier than normal humans as well remember, what with their reinforced bones and higher muscle density.[/quote] See, that makes MUCH more sense than what everyone else is toting around. I've heard they weigh TWO tons so many times. Not a chance. Still, I'm quite skeptical about 1,000. I'd settle for 500-750.[/quote] Why so skeptical? Take the Master Chief for instance, he weighs 286 lbs. without armor (keep in mind that he is also an inch short of 7 feet tall). That means the armor weighs a little over 700 lbs. You should also realize that Mjolnir armor is not a burden on the wearer at all as its strength-enhancing properties more than make up for the extra weight. This strength-enhancing is accomplished with an extremely dense layer of reactive liquid crystal.[/quote] Is there anything else you can tell me? Just layout anything you know regarding that suit of armor. The one MC wears because it seems to be the only one that is mildly effective in combat. Spartan 3s... LOL
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] leetS fo sllaB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EldritchWarlord A Spartan wearing Mjolnir armor weighs about half a ton (1000 lbs) total. That's the Spartan [b][u]and[/u][/b] the Spartan's armor. Spartan's are significantly heavier than normal humans as well remember, what with their reinforced bones and higher muscle density.[/quote] See, that makes MUCH more sense than what everyone else is toting around. I've heard they weigh TWO tons so many times. Not a chance. Still, I'm quite skeptical about 1,000. I'd settle for 500-750.[/quote] Why so skeptical? Take the Master Chief for instance, he weighs 286 lbs. without armor (keep in mind that he is also an inch short of 7 feet tall). That means the armor weighs a little over 700 lbs. You should also realize that Mjolnir armor is not a burden on the wearer at all as its strength-enhancing properties more than make up for the extra weight. This strength-enhancing is accomplished with an extremely dense layer of reactive liquid crystal. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BmB23 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] felmore A SPARTAN weighs around a half-ton, which translates to around 454.5 kilograms[/quote] Around? Half a ton is exactly 500kg.[/quote] That's a metric ton (1000 kg or 2205 lbs). We're talking about short tons (907 kg or 2000 lbs). [Edited on 10.06.2010 5:31 PM PDT]
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srsly...wtf 4k.. They weight half a ton kilos. Spartans themselves weight approx 200 kilos because of all the muscle they has and depends of their size. The books explain many times that they weight approximately 500kg in full Mjolnir. Ofcourse Spartan 3s weight less because they are smaller, they have worse armor.
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Someone write a passage from the book then because this still doesn't add up. This work of fiction sounds pretty stupid to me when the Spartan's muscles and bone structure are made of carbon steel. Both of them? No way. Also if the armor isn't an inch thick then how thin is the actual Spartan? LOOK AT THEM IN GAME AND TELL ME. It's not possible for it to be any thicker than an inch and still keep the idea that the Spartan is a big person. The thicker the armor is, the thinner the Spartan would be.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] felmore A SPARTAN weighs around a half-ton, which translates to around 454.5 kilograms[/quote] Around? Half a ton is exactly 500kg.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MasterCooKie123 The worlds heaviest, most expensive, and best armor weighs 4000 pounds and provides the protection of ducking behind a toaster[/quote] isbit from 500 years in the future? Didnt think so
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I believe its some kind of alloy comprised of Titanium, steel, and lead. But you also have to remember, there is technically 3 suits of armor for every Spartan. -gel layer -External skeleton armor (the Matte black armor) -The Metal Shelling (The part most people think of when they mention Spartan Armor)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE CENTER [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] leetS fo sllaB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE CENTER the spartans alone probly weigh half a ton if not more because of their augmentations. then add in the power supply it's pretty realistic[/quote] What exactly are these augmentations? Are they made of adamantium like Wolverine was? 1000 pound humans doesn't make any sense at all. At that weight they would actually begin to cause themselves damage. Don't forget how they aren't even that much bigger than marines. Just take a glance at a Spartan and tell me how that slightly larger than usual person weighs 4,000 pounds. The power supply isn't even visible.[/quote] it's 4,000 pounds altogether. read the books plz holy god[/quote] if u honestly think its two tons then ur uber retarded theyre still human not superman and ive reahd the books
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I understood MC weighed around 1 ton
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The worlds heaviest, most expensive, and best armor weighs 4000 pounds and provides the protection of ducking behind a toaster
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The augmentations made them have carbon steel bones and muscle that could make the terminator go -DAM!-.[/quote] lol win
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] leetS fo sllaB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE CENTER the spartans alone probly weigh half a ton if not more because of their augmentations. then add in the power supply it's pretty realistic[/quote] What exactly are these augmentations? Are they made of adamantium like Wolverine was? 1000 pound humans doesn't make any sense at all. At that weight they would actually begin to cause themselves damage. Don't forget how they aren't even that much bigger than marines. Just take a glance at a Spartan and tell me how that slightly larger than usual person weighs 4,000 pounds. The power supply isn't even visible.[/quote] it's 4,000 pounds altogether. read the books plz holy god [Edited on 10.06.2010 5:20 PM PDT]
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Its 1000
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A SPARTAN weighs around a half-ton, which translates to around 454.5 kilograms
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I think it's about a ton, and it has multiple layers. No where is it an inch thick.
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Lol what? not much bigger then marines? the spartans look hella thick with muscle. You know that black in between the bulky parts? thats a cybernetic skin made of titanium! it increases their strength and speed. The augmentations made them have carbon steel bones and muscle that could make the terminator go -DAM!-. With a fusion generator in the back of the armor! they would have to weigh at least half a ton!
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Read the books.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EldritchWarlord A Spartan wearing Mjolnir armor weighs about half a ton (1000 lbs) total. That's the Spartan [b][u]and[/u][/b] the Spartan's armor. Spartan's are significantly heavier than normal humans as well remember, what with their reinforced bones and higher muscle density.[/quote] See, that makes MUCH more sense than what everyone else is toting around. I've heard they weigh TWO tons so many times. Not a chance. Still, I'm quite skeptical about 1,000. I'd settle for 500-750.
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Where did you hear that a spartan's armor weighs 4000 pounds? Poster above me has the right idea, it's about 1000 altogether.
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A Spartan wearing Mjolnir armor weighs about half a ton (1000 lbs) total. That's the Spartan [b][u]and[/u][/b] the Spartan's armor. Spartan's are significantly heavier than normal humans as well remember, what with their reinforced bones and higher muscle density in addition to being generally very tall. [Edited on 10.06.2010 5:14 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE CENTER the spartans alone probly weigh half a ton if not more because of their augmentations. then add in the power supply it's pretty realistic[/quote] What exactly are these augmentations? Are they made of adamantium like Wolverine was? 1000 pound humans doesn't make any sense at all. At that weight they would actually begin to cause themselves damage. Don't forget how they aren't even that much bigger than marines. Just take a glance at a Spartan and tell me how that slightly larger than usual person weighs 4,000 pounds. The power supply isn't even visible.