[quote]You don't need to run a mod to take advantage of backup plan. What the hell are you talking about? Its handling is perfectly manageable with a mod. .8 seconds might be close to the ttk of some of the meta primaries, but not many primaries. And you have to be precision *perfect* with your primary to obtain that .8 ttk or be in a very special kill clip type situation, going up against a very forgiving, easy to use, ohk special weapon capable of killing at pulse range. Which can have backup plan or be pre charged in anticipation to reduce that comfortable .8 seconds you have to react. Which one is going to win 95% of the time? The erentil is simply broken and unbalanced. It has very few counters as its good close range, mid range and nearly long range. It's extremely easy to use and obtain. It's charge time can be mitigated by running backup plan or pre chaging behind cover. It has nothing to do with skill. I soloed my lunas, recluse, mountaintop, revoker and nearly got my not forgotten(was at 4500 glory) all solo. I'm more than decent bud. It's not about me though. Your statement is like telling people that novawarp pre nerf was balanced and people need to just improve their game to counter it. Quite closed minded. Again, if you don't think the erentil is a problem that's your opinion, you're entitled. But many think it is.[/quote] Bygones is better than Erentil so Bygones would win assuming two players of equal skill. Many don’t think that it is. In the last month there have been maybe 30 nerf erintil and/or fusions posts and none of them get enough upvotes to go positive.