I have both MT and Recluse and honestly? These should've been PvE pinnacles seeing how powerful they are in PvE. I think both armor and weapons need to be separated into PvP and PvE sets. PvP can roll with stats that are for PvP and vice versa. Not necessarily complaining but, to me it just makes sense.

[quote] everyone should be able to play the modes they like to get the guns they want,[/quote] I dont think that every gun should be available to everyone that wants one. I like that Bungie makes these weapons accessible but not obtainable for everyone. Some people earn them easily, some people need to gain more skill to obtain these weapons. I think its a good thing, and forces people to improve if they eventually want to get the weapon.

The gun isn't locked behind anything.. If you don't put in the work to get it than you don't deserve to have the gun plain and simple.. Its not tied behind RNG like so many weapons are in this game especially raid exotics.. Suck it up and put in the work to obtain the gun or sit here and cry about it because youre too lazy to make an attempt at obtaining it

Anyone think locking things behind PvE is wrong? I can’t be the only one who thinks this way, having gear locked behind a barrier of PvE, having to hope and pray that your team will be good today so you can get your 1k Voices or trying to slog through to get your God rolls, Bungie why? Your PvE in destiny is some of the worse I’ve ever played and yet to get certain weapons I have no choice but to play it? I’m sorry but after my third raid in a row of having teammates drop out and auto losing the encounters, and in many cases challenge mode is bull, everyone should be able to play the modes they like to get the guns they want, forcing people to play certain modes for certain guns is bull. See? I can sound idiotic as well. 🤣 No shame in admitting you suck at crucible though. Get good buddy.

From what I read, your problem is less with the PvP pinnacles being in PvP and is more with people dropping out of matches. (It's not limited to just Comp. It happens in QP and Gambit as well, and strikes are plagued with at well (at least, my experience has been as such). As a mostly (80%) solo player, I can tell you that choosing to play solo comes with a price, and one of those is inconsistent and unreliable teammates. There really is no way to stop people from leaving matches. Bungie can implement whatever types of consequences that they like, it will only discourage people from leaving without actually preventing them from leaving. I hate it when people quit matches too, but that is part of playing an online game with other people, especially if you go into any activity that has matchmaking and you queue into matchmaking with less than a full fireteam. That, in and of itself, is a stand-alone discussion that has born many debates/threads/posts. As far as getting guns that people want, well, I guess I disagree with the OP opinion. If there is a weapon that anyone wants and it requires a specific task or list of tasks to be completed, then the player has to accomplish the tasks to get the gun. That is their choice. Accept the challenge and get the reward for overcoming the challenge, or don't take the challenge and don't receive the reward. It's not a negotiation. There were some guns/armor that I wanted, but they were exclusive raid rewards. I had to find people to raid with and go start trying to complete raids to get the stuff in that loot pool. If I didn't do it, I didn't get the guns/gear that I was after. I like the challenges. Some take me a LOT longer because there may be activities tied to the acquiring the rewards that I either don't like or am not good at, but I will start playing them to achieve the goals that I want. I loathe Gambit, but I sure do love my Malfeasance. Worth the pain in the ass of doing Gambit stuff to get it, but that is just my opinion. Based on the title of the topic, my answer is "no". I don't think having gear locked behind an activity is wrong at all. It's part of the game. So long as all activities are accessible by all players, then I have no grievance with setting pinnacle rewards at the end of said activities or at the end of a quest that involves said activities. To the matter of people leaving activities, I don't like that people leave any activity before the activity is over, but unless I choose to roll into activities with a pre-made fireteam (and not using matchmaking), then I am stuck with what I get, just like everyone else that goes into activities solo or without a full fireteam.

[quote]forcing people to play certain modes for certain guns is bull[/quote] You mean like how 1k voices is locked behind the raid? Hypocrisy at it's finest.

“Forcing people to play certain modes to get certain guns is bs”? Yup I’ve heard it all now. What do you want them to just make every single item in the game obtainable from every activity? I don’t understand how you people can want something while also complaining that you have to play the game to get it. And this is coming from someone who wants 1k Voices but it too lazy to play the raid.

pvp as much as it is broken right now is what is keeping destiny alive otherwise the game would be dead

The only thing wrong is the entitlement of pve players who feel the entire game every single inch should cater to them. There is no pvp way to get 1k or any other pve weapon. I feel that every activity should have its own weapons that can only be earned by n that activity. Pvp included

Play with a team dumbass