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8/21/2019 8:57:09 PM
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Vex-ing Questions
Sorry about the pun. You know what? I take that back. I’m not sorry.
Anyways, good ol’ Ikora is back again, speaking in riddles. The trailer shows off multiple Vex frames (which still look like mining frames to me, interesting...), with one quote standing out from the rest of Ikora’s human babble.
[quote]The Garden asked a question. The Vex [b]are[/b] the answer.[/quote]
To me, this is quite something. It was pretty much already determined that the Vex don’t come from the Garden; they come from their own home planet, which of course we don’t know where. I believe there was a lore entry in which a Guardian has a lucid dream where he pricked his hand on a thorn of a Vex-eyed rose, and that in turn left a scar that stayed with him even through rezzes of different times.
These together can help us formulate somewhat of a hypothesis. As far as we know, there are 5 things that can drain a Guardian’s Light: The Darkness, a specially tuned Vex Mind, dying permanently through Ghost death as well as yours, and quite possibly, that rose in the dream (and the Traveler being lost, but that’s irrelevant for now).
Let’s go back to that quote. “The Vex are the answer”. Which would mean that the Garden definitely existed before the Vex. Also a quick note; everything in the Garden is hostile to life. The flowers, leaves, etc., as shown in multiple lore entries.
Here’s my hypothesis: That Garden? The Traveler, being known as the Gardener? Unrelated. But what is related is the Darkness and the Garden itself. My guess, as far as to what “question” was asked, is: “Who is worthy enough to defend my Garden?” The Darkness’ demonic Garden.
Some people may ask, “Why not the Hive?” Well, do the Hive have practically infinite of themselves, as well as a singular Hive Mind able to follow one idea of the universe? The Vex May strive after their own end goal, yet they know they cannot beat the Darkness (as evident by the Vault being invaded by Taken), so choose to buy time and appease it. Ironic.
Anyways, that’s it. Leave your comments.
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1 ReplyI see the garden as the answer to life in general. Whatever happened to make the Vex exist, it happened due to something related to life. Think about it. Why build an entire existence of robots that use radiolaria, a compound of silicon, as a mind? And can practically turn any and all organic life into metal? My theory is that something was killing off the Vex creators, and they needed a solution to stop it fast. So, the answer to life if you would is through the Vex. If life is to exist, it just be through some sort of cold metal and logic. In something similar to the Black Garden, harnessing energies they didn’t know (Such as the power of the sword logic that Quria found thanks to Crotas dumb ass) they created the Vex with two distinct functions. Transform anything that is organic into metal, and ensure that only the Vex are the last remaining reality, which is why the infinite forest was so damn important to them. But this gives two distinct questions. First, what was attacking the Vex’s creators and scared them so bad they created the time traveling robots we know now? And secondly, if there are combat frames that used the Sword Logic, where the hell are they? All the frames in our solar system are dedicated to only one thing, construction. They’re as Calus puts them, [quote]farmers, engineers, managers. [/quote] And what would happen when they came to our solar system?
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That's not vexing at all. Atleast to me, maybe because I watch and read doctor who too much.
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4 RepliesVex aren’t even our universe, they were supposedly let in by Crota. That said says that the garden is a place of baptism for the vex, and that fundamentally leads back to the idea that the garden itself asked a question and got an answer. You have to ask what was or rather is the “Heart of the Black Garden”, and how the garden could ask a question and then get an answer that did not yet exist in our universe. And perhaps never would have had the question not been asked.
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2 Replies<The Black Garden, a place of total Darkness with strange life. The Vex arrived and the Garden improved their design. Out of every race to enter, the Vex noticeably have no negative effects. However, the Cabal and Awoken who entered were altered in some way. Uldren did not remember the Heart and the Cabal who weren't killed experienced strange body modifications that fit the Garden's nature. Perhaps the question was indeed a "who can tend this place but not pose a threat to ∆?". The Vex, being strong enough to fight the Hive but not enough to combat Darkness-borne beings like the Taken, fit indeed.>
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My comment: Unfortunately my username doesn’t grant me answers to the vexing questions. 😥
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Geth*
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The Garden, a fragment of the original Society that made up of all things. Until the Traveler (A Gardener) that was created by the Queen of Final Shapes to enrich life, departed to seek it's own path. Separating the material and immaterial realms and creating the universe as we know it today. The Garden seeks to restore itself, to restore and create life and reflects the Traveler's actions (because they're connected indirectly), but the Traveler uses a dead power to re-shape the dead. The Queen of Final Shapes uses a similar power and wants to take back the Traveler to restore her Society, but she and her people (Veil, not of the material world and needs vessels to travel) is tainted and will ultimately fall to Darkness and become Nothing. While the Vex see the Black as the End of everything, and the Bright as Death and Rebirth. The Vex see neutrality. The preservation of all life at any cost, even if that means conversion into one form of continuous life. The absence of meaning, as life spirals into the infinite.
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3 RepliesI still believe the Vex represent the absence of Light and Darkness, the black garden asked the question: what if there was a place with both and neither at the same time The Vex walked in and said "bibbity boppity, this is our -blam!-ing property"
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1 ReplyUhhh, why is a strike boss from the first game involved in the raid? Is Bungie out of ideas again?
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13 RepliesIn the trailer for Season of the Undying we see thousands of immobile Goblins floating in what appears to be the Pyramidion (in the boss room). We then see Radiolaria flowing inside the vex frames and activating them, before the Vex crawl up from the pool and through a portal which leads into the Garden. It seems the Pyramidion is something of a Vex Factory, where radiolaria are given their frames to control. The Vex are then deployed to areas they must reinforce, in this case the Garden itself. Very interesting. Wherever the birthplace of the vex is, i think we know where they get some of their frames from.
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Don’t worry i make bad jokes and puns all the time
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Short answer: yes. Long answer: well yes, but not really.
