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8/13/2019 9:56:16 PM
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*Destroys Flows better
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The rebrand that competes with Adam Ruins Everything. Yours has a nice ring to it
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"Streamers bad" -Forums logic Muted.
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In this case they are. Bungie listen to them and not the actual player base. Things get changed because streamers deem it necessary. So if we go by that logic, Bungie think we should just watch streamers play the game we have all spent hundred of £/$ on. It's stupid.
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It's funny because a lot of the stuff we ask for Datto does too. But because he plays Destiny and has people watch him, everything wrong with D2 is his fault.
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Edited by Cudd1eZombi3: 8/14/2019 3:21:18 AMSo the last lot of nerfs before menagerie came out, we all asked for them? Nope. There were plenty of people on these forums saying that some of the nerfs made sense but the rest were pointless. Did Bungie listen....No. They did what certain streamers where asking for which was nerf things that didn't even need nerfing. No other games developer panders to streamers like Bungie does. Bungie doesn't listen to the player base. Not everyone agrees with the streamers, you are just assuming. Some people actually like to play the game they paid for, the game Bungie made and not watch streamers and the Destiny they are making for us. At the end of the day wherever your own opinion on streamers falls is totally up to you. My problem with Bungie is they don't have any balance. They are skewed towards listening to streamers over the player base. I am not the only one who has pointed this out. Plenty on people just on this thread have. It would be nice if they took both into account, but they don't and it's been made even more obvious by Luke Smith's comments.
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I wish i had your insight in Bungies creative process. Just because a streamer said something is wrong and Bungie later changed it, doesnt mean they changed it because of the streamer. It is one (and a very unlikely) possibility. Correlation is not Causation. If you have no idea what this means, check it up. Should be enlightening for you
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[quote]I wish i had your insight in Bungies creative process. Just because a streamer said something is wrong and Bungie later changed it, doesnt mean they changed it because of the streamer. It is one (and a very unlikely) possibility. Correlation is not Causation. If you have no idea what this means, check it up. Should be enlightening for you[/quote] Funny how this had happened a number of times. Funny how they always invite streamers to their summits and generally after things get changed. I think it would be enlightening for you to look into it. Very enlightening indeed.
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Funny how they also invite random players from the community (no names) to those summits aswell. But i dont wanna take away your tinfoil hat. Correlation does not equal Causation ;)
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Ah I see how it is. I must wear a tinfoil hat because I don't bow down to the almighty streamers like you do. Just because you have the blinkers on is not my problem. If I was the only person saying this fine, but news flash I am not. It's pretty obvious to most people. If that means according to you, some random dude on the internet, that I wear a tinfoil hat simply because I would like Bungie to actually listen to us, the actual player base and not streamers who make up a very small population of said player base, so be it. I embrace it wholeheartedly 😊
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And again, i dont see arguments beyond ad hominem here. You jumped to one conclussion (Bungie in bad streamers ass) and you stay with it. You dont even try to counter the brought up arguments. I just say, the arguments that datto for example brought up, lines up very much with my experience so i support it. You on the contrary say: "He's a Influencer / Streamer, he is out of touch, he is wrong" Thats not an argument, thats just brabbling around. And again to your argument of Streamer says A, Bungie does A Correlation does not equal Causation. Ever thought that the streamer in case were actually right about the state of the game? I mean, they play it a lot, so they actually have a bit of insight into the game. And i dont have the blinkers on. I can think for myself pretty well. I just come to the same conclussions as Datto in those matters. Again Correlation does not equal Causation. Just because i have the same opinion he has, doesnt mean i blindly take it from him.
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I really cant be bothered arguing with someone who doesnt actually read whats written and decides to make up things i havent said, nor intimated. So here's a lesson in cause and effect now - the effect, muting..... The cause, You. Bye now
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the effect - mute the cause - no arguments is more fitting i guess
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In this case they are. Bungie listen to them and not the actual player base. Things get changed because streamers deem it necessary. So if we go by that logic, Bungie think we should just watch streamers play the game we have all spent hundred of £/$ on. It's stupid.
