Luna/NF are poor PvE weapons (basically any hand cannon is better) Redrix is a poor PvE weapon (most pulses are as good or better) Revoker is a poor PvE weapon MT is literally only good because of spike nades which IMO will likely see a nerf.. when any old 150 rpm GL with spikes out damages basically every exotic power weapon... yikes.. (also lets not forget that or Orewings maul and Militias birthright can both get spike grenades and are the exact same damage/ROF as mountaintop) And then there’s recluse. Which is hands down the best Add clearing weapon in game. But there isn’t really any way to make a pinnacle SMG without a damage increasing perk... it had to be better than stuff like bug out bag... And too be fair recluse isn’t exactly the hardest thing to get... wendigo is a harder grind for me