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Edited by RoninPhoenix650: 7/21/2019 3:35:19 PMI would say that you’re a new kind of stupid but that kind of stupid has been used to discredit people for ages. He has a point and you cannot logically dispute it so you resort to crush arguments that only seem legit on the surface. Even if he never stepped foot in a raid he doesn’t need to in order to watch a video and hear what the people he plays with say about it. I don’t need to be a helicopter pilot to know that if I see one in a tree, somebody fracked up.
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Everyone is replying to me on this post. Gets farmed in raids. I get my raids done quickly and effectively. I have a team of solid players we have a laugh and joke. I can help anyone with raids. They just need to listen and learn. Raids are fun and well designed. A lot of players who complain don't have a team to raid with. They just LFG.
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None of that applies to this whatsoever........ You might as well have said that everyone replying did so while sitting.
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So you want raids harder to right?
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Try again. This time slow down and read carefully.
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You're a bot.
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Right........nice logical argument there little guy.
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Not needed , he has a point .. a good one .. Take my raid report and I support him.
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Edited by Yum The Bot: 7/21/2019 1:50:00 PMSo you want raids even easier with less "stuff" going on okay!? Do you want matchmaking for current raids as well?
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Edited by Hellekeen: 7/21/2019 1:27:46 PMDo you sometimes even read the stuff before you post or why are you so extremely wrong this time ? Is this a reoccurring theme in your life ? He wants MORE stuff going on , MORE adds, enemies and encounters . MORE difficult .. Please check your glasses For your convenience I highlighted the important words
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Raids are fine. Get good or don't raid. Make friends. Find a clan. Build a team you're comfortable raiding with. Easy. So he can't do raids now but he wants them harder?! Makes no sense
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[quote]So he can't do raids now but he wants them harder?! Makes no sense[/quote] Just in your little head .. The current difficulty is knowledge not skill, it doesnt scale well and skill doesn’t mean too much . He wants, rightfully, a different set of difficulty , and not as easy as it is now. The difficulty is finding a team that doesn’t flip flop from „you have to raid every week 10 times „ and „i have no clue what I do“ teams .. While the older raids with two settings (should have give. You a hint already ) had always a place for a learner without killing the team .. and made it more accessible for players to get into it . The new method is just too easy once you „got it“ and easy to fail so long you still memorize the sequences .. Bad structure and i hope Bungie does something in between the old and the new raids .. more challenge, action and some mechanics and not a ballet some like to dance 200 times ..
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Raids take no skill. Okay mate whatever.
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Please learn to read .. please .. no one said raiding takes no skill .. It will help you way more than vomiting raids
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You want raids harder right?
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Not one dimensional Or to put it slightly different :A different form of hard .. “ The example of the rooms I gave above with the three doors is nicely displaying the issue Get a different kind of difficulty (not entirely knowledge based) and then crank it up while having different roles to fullfill to allow different ability levels to play together .. Is hardly :“u want his harder, right?“
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Actually your raid report proves me right ^^ if you can blast through close through 200 clears per raid , the raid can’t be very difficult =D Thanks for the confirmation , we need more difficult and harder raids . You doing 200 each is all the proof someone needs to easily see that those raids are WAY to easy once you learned the mechanics .. not much skill involved . Just memorize a sequence. You are actually perfectly making my (and that of the OP) s point .thanks ^^ I know someone “attacked” your only source of self esteem, so probably now the “Raid-Gitgudder-Gag-reflex “ will come in and there will be some expectorant like “Buargs*noob*hualp*gitgud!!!111eleven*you can’t even talk about this since you only have X clears*whooorg* raid is fine!*blargh* matchmaking*rant“ Calm down little one .. it’s okay it will pass .. and then you will also see that your „prrrrreciousssss“ raid clears won’t give u any discount on your first car anyway „ it’s a hobby, Those new raids are way too easy after you learned the mechanic, the mechanics are too much (and useless since they diminish the difficulty) the OP still has a point, and your clears doesn’t mean shit apart from the fact that you desperately need a girlfriend .. ^^
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Okay good luck. Doing the flawless raids? Wish you the best. I personal think if they make raids any harder. The "casuals" would hate it even more. The "casuals" would feel even more left out then they already do..... Making raids harder is great for players like me and my clan but as a whole no way. Getting toxic and personal does not help your argument what so ever.
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[quote] Getting toxic and personal does not help your argument what so ever.[/quote] I am very glad to see that you can reflect on your actions and come to a healthy conclusion about your behavior. I am happy to see you now recognizing your behavior a toxic.. good Job For the rest , you still do not seem to be able to get the basic idea behind the current difficulty and the desired difficulty .. tip: it’s not as hard to get in and gets harder later if you are seasoned enough as opposed to higher entry level difficulty due to knowledge rather than skill (if I give you three doors, one will let you through, two will kill you, is that difficult to master or just a matter of knowledge ? (D2 Raids) Versus you have to lockpick a door while two fight off enemies (old raids) ) But after all I don’t expect you to grasp the essence ..seems that’s something you just can’t learn by looking it up ^^ ) Btw: flawless or challenges are also just artificially increased difficulties by applying handicaps .. same as playing with a guitar hero controller .. not really something interesting .. he’ll even crotas end had a real difficulty change and not just “close one eye and do the same frighin raid “ But if that’s your thing , good boi!
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Just stop. Raid report has the facts
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[quote]Just stop. Raid report has the facts[/quote] True and they perfectly make my point, thanks for that =D
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You want raids to be harder right that's your point?
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Edited by Hellekeen: 7/21/2019 5:15:58 PMI am amazed that you still seem to have some difficulties understanding the base concept of this thread .. U r sure your raid clears haven’t been recoveries ? I mean accidentally of course .. Okay slow The current raids are like a room with three doors where two of them will insta kill you .. you need to know where the correct door is .. is that „difficult“? Theorhetically Sure , but does this require skill ? Hardly .. can you scale this .. rarely .. Now What everyone and his grandma wants, is a room with three doors where you can use each of them to get to the next room but you have to lockpick them while two of your teammates have to cover you because enemies spawn based on which door you chose ... Which one is more difficult ? In which scenario can you scale the difficulty ? Where can you succeed with skill the first time and not by simply having luck while guessing. In which scenario do you have more roles ? Is the first scenario doomed to become „extremely trivial“ after three clears ? Is the second scenario becoming trivial the second, third or fourth time ? Do you get the issue now or did the dog eat your homework?
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Edited by Yum The Bot: 7/21/2019 6:14:09 PMYou're Chatting pure rubbish
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You are really trying hard to prove my point that clearing 199 raids do not need to be an intellectual challenging activity ..