No more OP super (against dawnblade ulti, but skill are bad)
No OP exotics (TS / OA not OP like One-eyed mask or Topotunes)
Worst mobility.
Worst supers.
Moderate neutral game.
Everything is too slow.
I used to think that we were competitive, but in the current meta, it feels like self harm. Before the nova warp nerf, warlocks were already the least used class.
Chaos reach for example:
- 1-2 second cast animation (it's too long, no one class don't have so long cast animation)
- Turns your screen black
- Requires 3 ticks to kill anything
- Kills your movement speed
- Moderate exotic synergy
Compared to Blade Barrage
- Instant activation
- Kills everything at activation/no evasion time
- almost 360 targeting
- Doesn't need to be accurate
- Great exoctic synergy
You might suggest that Nova bomb is a more accurate comparison, but the matchup is actually worse when you consider class mobility, cast time and exotic synergy. People will mention slova bomb, but you can literally turn around and outrun the thing, also if you’re fast enough you can sidestep or shouldercharge past it, and it will be too slow to turn.
Beyond the supers, Healing Rift's are a -blam!-ing terrible PvP option. Mainly, cast time takes too long (over a second), and the effect is too small in the world of OHK specials. Enemies always use grenades againеs all rifts, forcing you to leave rift, always! Meanwhile warlock teleport is too slow, radar is turn off, when you blinking, long cast animation in the beginning / ending, when another class cant jump immediately (hunters for example) with radar and shoot you. Normally warlocks blink works with new exotic, but it should works without exotic like with it, only available to void subclasses, and arc subclasses have very little outside of transversive steps. Warlock jump - worst jump in the game.
Sure, middle tree voidlock still has the OHK grenade, that requires >1 second charge time... And short change, so you'll be dead to any titan melee before then, or shotgun or...
Basically, everything on the warlock just feels really slow, with lots of penalties with no real payoff.
At this point, i'd rather quit D2 than train other subclass, I really don't have the time or enthusiasm to switch! Really, Bungie, i don't understand, why Warlock so worts in PvP (in PvE they are good, yeah).
People, don't be toxic. In crucible a lot of hunters and titans, but low warlocks, coz they are too bad for PvP. Yes, i know, bottom / top tree of Dawnblade is good, but not enough, like other classes.
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2 RepliesNah. Rifts are very useful (good for the team too) Nova Warp is actually in a good spot now, I dont think I've ever seen someone outrun my Slowva (though it always amuses me to watch it squeeze through a doorway as it chases a fleeing guardian) and Dawnblade is a fantastic roaming super. Like Hammers but [b]way[/b] more mobile. The only thing that works against Warlocks is their jump. Hunters and Titans can juke people effectively, Warlocks just kind of float hopefully away 😂
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1 ReplyI have nearly 150 made shaxx proud medals. Im a warlock main and mainly play PvP solo. I can't play hunter at all. I'm bad at it. They're not as weak as you think. Burst glide is really good for horizontal movement. Storm grenades are dirty because of the delayed explosion. Combo that with too tree stormcaller and you can wipe a team. I've done it. Numerous times. Stormcaller is disgusting when you know how to move and teleport. Wiping a team is usually a non issue unless they run. Reach is harder to use, but very fun if you can master it. That ball lightning has gotten me absurd kills. Bottom tree is all about pressure. Fantastic with getaway artist. Seriously good. Dawnblade top and bottom tree are both good, but bottom tree is more super heavy while top is mobility heavy. The explosive hands and burn from bottom tree have netted me quite a few doubles. Nova is good all around. Top tree is fantastic for just nuking all supers. Middle tree's boop punch is amazing, and handheld supernova is dirty. Nova warp, in the hands of a blink lock, is just nigh impossible to kill. It's lovely. In terms of exotics: getaway artist for storm, nezarecs sin with a void energy makes for a nasty combo with middle tree Nova, astroverse is disgusting with any Nova, and for good all rounders ophidian and transversive steps.
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2 RepliesYou know most people who hit seventh columns do them with Warlocks. In fact they are probably the best class for PvE and PvP in my opinion.
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Tether has the longest activation time. Even if you land your arrow infront of a super, he will still suck you up because they won't get canceled at the same time.