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6/15/2019 8:33:52 AM
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Kill Quests are destroying Coop-Activities
Anyone noticed that recently?
You wanna play Gambit, everyone is running around with bow, just caring about his own kills.... People are waiting in front of Portal to be first to invade for medal…
You Play strikes, People are stealing grenade launcher kills from each other….
You go and wanna kill Shield drones, so you wait until shield is up again, but someone else kills the Saboteur, 'cause he needs him killed…
you play crucible, everyone is just caring about certain weapon kills no matter if they win or lose....
I could list plenty of other examples, where people are forced to be selfish to get there bounties or quests done...
Every activity w/o matchmaking you better do alone, because there is a limited amount of enemies, in matchmaking stuff either you are lucky to have a team that shares or you are fighting each other instead of fighting the enemies…
This is killing a game, which is supposed to be for Team Play!!
Please Bungie, take solo achievements out of Coop-Activities or better: make the progress count for the whole fire-team! I know, that this will lead to people going afk and get carried, but i prefer that instead of having fire-teams that compete for progress...
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This is why the recluse quest was done right. You could use whatever loadout you liked. No 2000 smg kills required. Not sure why bungie went back to this shit model.
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1 ReplyEdited by Dayknight: 6/17/2019 12:25:46 PMLol Played gambit last night everyone on my team had bows lol We lost, but we got those kills though!!! 😂
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1 ReplyIf you played in a full team and communicate, it would probably resolve most of this.
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Who cares about shield drones. Haven't done a single black armory bounty in months. I kill the forge sabateurs when I see them for the small chance at the reworked gear. Pretty sure there's a much smaller portion of the population who actually care about shield drones
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Yeah all of this is a problem created by a lack of creativity.
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who would have guessed.....? oh wait.. everyone..
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I just go to lost sectors while doing strikes. I completely ignore the objectives. I am forced to, because otherwise I barely make progress because everyone is spamming nade launchers. It's a very poor design.
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1 ReplyGood post. Ironically this game gives you a player when you dont want or need him. But when you want one like for raids the game does nothing. I have noticed that too. Strikes are a competition of who gets the kills with the grenade launchers because of wendigo and ll.
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1 ReplyIt is true that sometimes just focusing on bounties can be at the expense of a win here and there. But wins only matter in Comp. Also, it is actually possible to play the objectives while using different weapons. Personally, I won a lot of the solo que Gambit matches I played, while using my bow. Bungie even made the comp pinnacle weapon quest not based on reaching a rank, instead just getting points, so not sure why the complaints. Its only been a little under 2 weeks, since the season started. Another couple of weeks you can just go back to complaining about not having the pinnacle weapons, instead of the playlist disruption being caused by so many people pursuing them.
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2 RepliesIf you could only do wendago in nightfall lost sectors. I do strike playlist and just run to a lost sector anyways. Then get teleported to the boss later. We all get the kills we want, or other may get annoyed with me, Oh well. Blame bungie not the player.
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[quote]You Play strikes, People are stealing grenade launcher kills from each other….[/quote] There were people who were even kind enough to revive me, so did I (naturally), but then are those doing the quest who walk through your ghost and I be like "I just want to play;-;". I did yesterday a strike just for fun and a teammate ran to the enemies to get the kills first instead of taking first the blue lights from heaven on nessus (I don’t remember the strike name. it’s the one with the invisible boss).
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Edited by SaroN: 6/17/2019 10:46:58 AMTHE THING WITH STRIKES! EVERYONE who does the blind well during the strike at least shoot also at the boss during BOSS PHASE instead of random small fries!!!!!! seriously I did blind well with about 8 people and I was the only one doing damage to the boss. After I killed the first boss solo I turned and saw the other two had STILL full health! Edit: The grenadelauncher quest is also easy to do during the strike so stay were you belong! BE GONE!
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+1 Actually I have noticed this too, glad you posted the issue because I was starting to get annoyed with this myself.
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I always hated quests like that in matchmade activities, PvP or PvE. People play their quest instead of playing the objective, it can very quickly ruin a game when an individual player has different goals from the rest of the team.
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 6/17/2019 1:25:38 AMThere is WAY too much of this in this game, and there has been for quite some time. Everything is SO activity specific. The game is rigid to its own detriment. At the very least, it should stay out of PvP activities. Individual objectives and competing on a team are fundamentally opposing things. They do not belong together. The only reason anyone should ever be competing in something like a video game or a sport is because they chose to be there because they wanted to compete, because they like the competition. The way that Bungie has chosen to go about this creates and perpetuates a very divisive and toxic community and it will never change unless they give people more paths of progression/acquisition.
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In other shocking news psychologists have just discovered people do what they are incentivized to do.
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3 RepliesI used to care. I no longer don’t. I have a bounty for something, that’s what I’m doing. Bungie has made this game more toxic then it needs to be.
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Edited by Xc_LuxZenRa: 6/16/2019 8:16:24 AMIn a game that invloves killing who would have imagined a Kill quest is what is ruining the game. LoL you made me chuckle. [quote]I could list plenty of other examples, where people are forced to be selfish to get there bounties or quests done...[/quote] Not forced.... there is a quest and i want to get it done. I have 2 choices. Solo or Co-OP. As long as i am enjoying myself what is the issue(meaning win or lose)? Why do you want to win if their is no reward unless you are hunting for something like everyone else. You do realize LFG/Clans is a thing right? I dont see the issue you present. [quote]Please Bungie, take solo achievements out of Coop-Activities or better: make the progress count for the whole fire-team! I know, that this will lead to people going afk and get carried, but i prefer that instead of having fire-teams that compete for progress...[/quote] Never. Just form your own team or play solo and enjoy players helping you kill things. 👀👀👀👀
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I loved going into comp for thorn, caring not about anything but my kills. Get sab or elim? Throw myself at enemies to quickly blow through useless gametypes. Lol yep, I'm THAT guy. And I didn't care at all. All that hatemail was hilarious.
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Stealing kills in a strike? Um the point is to kill the enemies and then kill the boss. No enemy in a strike is meant for one player.
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2 RepliesI may have a fix for the overabundance of snipers due to the Revoker quest. Just make it so the sniper kills portion of the quest only counts in competitive. That way, if you’re tired of the snipers, just play quickplay.
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1 ReplyGet some friends loser, lol.
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I'd have to agree. I get my bounties and progress done, and I dont care about winning. With that being said, I'm not working on Hush and I dont play Crucible. When it comes to the Wendigo, I'm getting my kills. For the past 2 seasons we've been able to load in to a Nighfall and solo the kills requirements. Unfortunately Bungie keeps "experimenting" with things that are fine, and now we can no longer do that. There is no reason to rush though, you wont get the % part complete before the rest of it, so we're really just overworking ourselves and being assholes for no reason.
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Iron Banner kill bounties kilked Iron Banner Rift. Its been a pretty consistent experience accross all activities since then with quests and bounties dragging a load of unwilling players into activities they don't care for. How can you expect decent random teammates in any activity when its like this? You can't. Get some friends and make the most of it from the other side of the fence.
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1 ReplyNo such thing as "stealing nade launcher kills" For drones just wait for saboteur outside the forge. That s 4 plus all the chest drones count.
