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6/6/2019 5:52:14 PM
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Community keeps complaining about Bungie catering to streamers.
Bungie: let's have Datto host the reveal stream!
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Bungie wants streamers to play other just watch. I am saving few bucks just watching streamers rather than playing.
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[quote]Bungie wants streamers to play other just watch. I am saving few bucks just watching streamers rather than playing.[/quote] So you're one of those that make streamers exist. I guess you're part of the problem then.
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Would you rather they fly you in to host? Or one of the developers like Luke Smith that everyone hates for little to no unjustified reasons?
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Ha no reason? You must of missed the "I'f we make you'll throw your money at us to have it" statement. He should of been fired.
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No I'd rather it have been somebody like xHoundishx Mesa Sean or somebody who isn't surrounded by as much like or dislike. Or even a group of guys to talk to the devs. There's plenty other people out there.
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I mean Houndish is in Europe, so that’d be pretty hard to organize, but I see what you mean. Datto probably wasn’t the best choice especially after the raid drama, but I’m sure they organized this before all that happened.
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Edited by thermal contact: 6/6/2019 6:49:56 PMI honestly don't care who it is, I'm just pointing out that Bungie maybe isn't paying close enough attention to the criticism they are receiving, or they are and just don't care. Which proves the communities point either way. Edit: and did you even watch it? Cause Luke Smith was all over that stream, from like the very beginning...
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No I haven’t had a chance to watch the whole thing yet, I’ve only seen bits and pieces and I guess it was just coincidence that I never saw Luke Smith lol. And I realize my comment was probably more hostile sounding than I intended, I just meant to say there really aren’t too many good options for hosts. Destiny has kinda been on thin ice for a little bit, so no matter who they choose to host someone will have a problem with it.
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[quote]Destiny has kinda been on thin ice for a little bit, so no matter who they choose to host someone will have a problem with it.[/quote] Exactly my point. A huge criticism is that Bungie has been favoring "streamable content" at the expense of the casual player. So to go out of your way, to look outside Bungie, and bring in a streamer (and a sore loser at that) to host is beyond bad optics. Sticking with someone internal like Deej, who normally hosts these streams, would have been way better.
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I mean to be fair he is one of, if not the biggest content creators for destiny out there. And while I don’t really like his personality he has informative content and he didn’t do an awful job at hosting. But yeah they probably should’ve gotten someone else. Also, is it necessarily streamable content they’re moving towards or more harcore/ mmorpg-like content that they’re moving towards. Sure mmorpg content happens to be very streamable, but is that a bad thing? Bungie is self publishing now and catering towards your most hardcore/ loyal players over casuals to make more money makes sense. I’m sure they’re not intentionally changing the game to weed out the casuals, but to appease the more hardcore. Which again, is this bad? What’s wrong with favoring the people that play the game more over people who play less?
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I never said he did a bad job hosting (which he did, but that's besides the point). And yes, content in the past has been catered to streamers. Remember Niobe Labs? After something like that, you would think Bungie would try to at least shake the image, even if it's not the real goal. But instead they go and pick, as you said, one of the biggest Destiny streamers out there. Who threw a hissy fit over not getting world's first for the newest raid no less. And yes, I do somewhat like the new direction in terms of more RPG elements, but it is hard core, where I really like Destiny for the gunplay. Is pushing casuals aside for more hardcore players a bad thing? Depends. Can Bungie attract enough of them, and milk enough money out of them, to keep going? Maybe. But if that answer ever becomes "no", they're in trouble...
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Honestly if you like the game support it, if the issues affecting you and only you feedback is an option and if you are the only one with said issue don't expect it to be dealt with. In that case don't support them. Streamers and content creators play this game because they enjoy it, if they didn't they'd stop. If you don't want to support the people who want the game to live by making it their living thats fine too, but accusing them as the issue( Niobe labs wasn't just a streamers wet dream) (escalation was also because of them and bungie made it easier even though it didn't need it) is ridiculous.
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You're 100% missing the point. And like I said somewhere above, I could care less about streamers. The point is, whether they are right or not, a large part of the community thinks Bungie is catering to streamers. They feel disenfranchised and like Bungie isn't hearing them. And having Datto host the stream just kinda proved their point. And honestly I don't see how he makes it as a streamer, cause he did a horrible job. I lost interest half way through his first set of "interviews", and turned it off shortly after that. So I guess my main reason for disliking it is that they have professional communication/community managers on staff, and yet they went with an outsider that has zero charisma and would be a middle finger to a portion of the community. It's just another sign of Bungie's incompetence.
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It doesn't matter as long as they ask good questions and it seems that he is.
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Well, like it or not, it's a good way to get the word out on this stuff. Datto and Kackis have a lot of followers.
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Right, but that doesn't mean they have to host the damn show. Easily could have been one of the community folks like dj or whoever, and Datto and Kackis could have reported on it/done reactions to it. It still would have reached their "massive" fan base.
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Community is just hateful
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Sections of the community are sceptical. Unsurprising given the strokes that Bungie have pulled.
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No its blind hate. Specifically that targeted at the streamers. After a second of thought, all of the streamer related hate makes 0 sense
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It's not, at least in my case, blind hate directed at streamers. Like I said before, I don't really care about streamers one way or another. It's more about Bungie "hearing us" on criticism about who they are, or aren't, catering the game too, and them completely ignoring said criticism. I just found it amusing is all.
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Streamers dont bother me, I unsubscribed from all Destiny content creators ages ago.
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He literally came on and said: « now I am going to embarrass myself for the second time this week »
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Which I loved. At least he's owning what a crybaby he is...
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meh, I don’t know who thatto is, so it doesn’t matter. Heck, they could have used SpongeBob SquarePants and I wouldn’t care.
