I think the perk should have just been to pick up the enemy's special ammo on a kill, without having to go and pick it up. Like shoot and loot.

Bungie is constantly testing things and right under our noses. I think Revelry was one big test of what more power could be like. It wouldn’t surprise me if Comp is on the way out — or at the very least fundamentally changing. But think about it from this angle, Comp may need to die for Trials to come back. Because Comp is just a poor version of Trials right now. Bungie isn’t going to support PvP if the player numbers stay so low. Why do you think Crucible hasn’t gotten anything all year long? So something has to drastically change because the current state of Crucible and especially Comp is pretty low and has been all year.

I fell in love with the idea of revoker immediately after I heard about it's perk. This will make so many people start trying out sniping, and it just may achieve the herculean task of moving the meta away from shotguns, even if only slightly. To anyone thinking sniping may be their thing, the only advice I have is keep it at. It's a skill that has to be fine tuned, and if you want an easy way to start revoker is probably going to be it.

All of this is trumped by PVP just simply being hot garbage. Matchmaking is lopsided There's no effective anti cheat. No dedicated servers Class imbalance Ult Imbalance You wanna know how PVP gets better? Halo. Weapons get assigned in game, classes get nullified durring pvp. Everyone is reduced to an equal damage table. Fixed.

Kinetic snipers are hot garbage anyway. A weapon that rewards playing badly in a slot that has many better options. Doesn't seem like a good reward. Snapshot and good handling? Most of my secondary snipers have snapshot and fluted barrel. The only benefit to this sniper is a shorter scope. Not a good trade off for having to sacrifice TLW/Sniper combo. This is what happens when people cry about Luna's. They water down competitive pinnacle rewards. There is a very low skill cap to this weapon. If you're good with any sniper currently in the game, you won't be better with this weapon. All it does is make bad players better. Combine that with the fact that it's available to everyone this season, good or not, and you can see that Bungie has effectively abandoned Competitive altogether.

Unless I need sniper kills to obtain the weapon. Not going to use a sniper. Get the revoker, storing it forever. The ability to obtain it will bring me back to the crucible playlist. Still won't get any of the other pinnalce weapons that have an impossible to get requirement (fabled).

I wish it wasnt kinetic. What am I gonna use, not forgotten? too bad it’s getting nerfed into the ground in 3 days

-blam!- it's a kinetic weapon idk if ima have the will to replace my last word. 😭

well i don't know what you guys believe what exactly you call with that but a practice gun that forgives missing shots isn't the way you get better you rely on it not more. It's a worthless gun for a Player which actually Hits his/her shots it's completly useless. This so called Skill you want to archiev will you guys never get not by believing this crap again and again. You get better if you want it i earned so much experience by gettin not forgotten more than ever i wanted it so i did it. The reward was meanigful and powerfull enough to do something for it. I bet my NF and 10000 silver most of you guys never tried ( if i would check every body writing in here 90% of them are not above 1000-2000 glory) in 1 or 2 Weeks you guys scream about Service Revolver and erentil or jotunn and recluse, prime whatever.. and the circles continues.. Aren't you guys bored? Talking about things you don't archiev anyway? It's not even funny anymore.. Seriously.. (sarcasm) Hell Yeah i am so afraid of the New sniper pro Player coming out of nowhere.. Lets face it most of you guys are not good with Luna or Nf or any other pinnacle gun and at the end of the Day most of you quit by the same reason not facing the real problem or sitting in the spawn for 90% of the Match duration. I am a rusher. Run kill run kill next. I droped my Kd twice on purpose.. I like fast games and i prefer Luna Players 10000 Times more than pulserifle spawncamper and at the end that's what comes. You guys always arguing this crap only make your own Game less enjoyable by giving yourself a greater Handicap called lets nerf everything till the Game sucks. a good Player doesn't care. I can play every gun i actually did on triumphs called Crucible weapon perfection i can link a Screenshot how many of you guys did that.. Oh right there is not even 0.5 percent of the Playerbase which actually did that.. So what Skill are we exactly talking about? The Skill of empty arguments and crying as loud as it possible get? Nf or Luna wasn't close so OP People pretend it has many contenders but well what do i know by archieving every Crucible triumph i can possibly get mostly playing solo ( for not totaly farming my opponents, every Game over 30-60 kills and over 40 days Crucible playtime) what do i know. And the arguments that People bought it or some shit i don't care really. In every looter Game with good rewards rwt exist i play runescape since 2006 and it has this problem too since i play you can't do anything against it. It happens. People can do with their money what ever they want. I personaly would never do something but it's their decision not mine and they don't get better through a gun that's bs. Work for the Things you want and get better or not but then don't complain. End of Story. That's the sad truth.

It's going to be an average sniper - at best - unless it's got crazy base stats, it'll disappear within a week or two.

Competitive PvP........in Destiny.......... baaaaahahaha!! While people [b][i]TRY[/i][/b] to make Destiny competitive, it never will be. The list of rules and white washing of the game at "tournaments" further exemplifies this. [spoiler]Competitive Destiny....baaaaahahaha. [/spoiler] [spoiler]yup, still laughing[/spoiler]

Really good post man. I was planning to use this gun to help me learn sniping, so we'll see how it goes.

People act like luna and recluse kills basically anything it touches. Until you realize you actually have to be good to dominate with it. And how do you get good exactly? By practicing. Luna rewards players who have put in the time to get better at pacing their shots and honing their accuracy. That first kill grants you a higher chance of survivability without increasing your health or resistance. It gives you a chance to fight again, and more efficiently the next time, but if you miss, or Luna’s Howl runs out you're back to where you started. I think the design of this gun is great and doesn't deserve the nerf its getting. Because bungie is taking a weapon that is great and making it average. Not to mention a lot of us put time into getting that hand cannon and for us to now see it get nerfed is -blam!-ing bullshit. And youll notice the only ones complaining about luna is people who either started playing destiny or k/d and kda below 1.0. IMO their opinion about luna shouldnt matter. They havent put the time to get better, or dont care enough about pvp to begin with. I also think part of the problem is bungies way of handling pvp. Kda and kd should actually matter and you should be ranked and placed in matches according to your skill with the option to jump into harder matches with increased glory point gain. I feel like they already know this seeing as they've had a pvp mode catered specifically to hardcore pvpers. But thats gone now, so I'm not sure what they're planning. But i digress, lunas and recluse are great weapons undeserving of their nerf. Although i would say Not forgotten is a gun that probably should've never existed at all, seeing its range is much higher despite the harder recoil, which can be eventually mastered which makes it OP IMO.

It’s not flashy, but I really like the ideas behind it and the quest

A legendary sniper with ambush snapshot and essentially mulligan can't wait to get it!

Great assessment! I was really looking forward to this being in the energy slot to pair with TLW. As it is, I'll probably try running it with Recluse, but I see myself reverting to TLW and twilight oath combo.

I think the revoker should also returned ammo on a precision kill in addition to a miss.

Yep, Pinnacles are designed to make things easier for you, whilst also giving a slight edge who can take advantage of their unique perks through their own skill. LH/NF broke this philosophy, which is why it was adjusted. It was just too potent because it gave you an advantage for already doing what you're supposed to whilst it did what it does naturally. It was doing all the work and wasn't reflective of the players skill. Mountain Top rewards accuracy, but it's much easier to use than Single shot grenade Launchers that bounce. It's basically a Legendary version of Jotunn w/o tracking. Redrix, Recluse, Breakneck reward you with a RoF and/or damage boost for getting kills before hand. Same concept can be said for Hush, a more massive draw time reduction than Archer's Tempo if you're willing to go the extra mile and get hip fire precision shots. It rewards you for mastering the Bow.