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Please be patient with guardians with anxiety during raids

Be patient and understanding, we're trying. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been updated with tags that are more appropriate. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]

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  • You can't expect a group of random gamers to do that to be honest. A better idea would be to deal with it first before raiding.

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    • Ive suffered through anxiety my whole life, have a bag full of meds to get me through each day and was agoraphobic for several years. But honestly, I would never expect someone to go out of there way just because I lost the mental health lottery. It's great when people do help out, don't get me wrong, but it should never be expected. Some groups just wanna get stuff done, nothing wrong with that.

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    • This is why I dont agree with this statement. 1. The thing with anxiety is that 9/10 is self-diagnosed, in other words complete bullshit. 2. They are ungrateful. They come in stating they have no mic, which is fine by me, but once the raid is completed they leave without saying anything. Anxiety or not, it isnt that hard to simply say thank you after I spend 6 hours carrying you. 3. They hold other players back. Whenever one player struggles a lot, others will get bored and leave, this happens a lot. Everyone can tell you that it is very hard to find a noob team through Lfg. If shit like this happens all the time it can take up to two hours of raiding time (or having a life). 4. They dont ever tell when they got anxiety, because of anxiety🤗 how can I then know they have it? All I see is an idiot not knowing what to do after being told at least 4 times exactly what they have to do. Disclaimer: Im not saying this applies to everyone. I think that 90% of the players I help out is a pleasant experience for both parties. This also doesnt apply only to players with anxiety.

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      • Unfortunately, all this thread did was reveal what a bag of shit this whole community is. How pathetic.

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        • Anxiety.... This is precisely why... raids should "require" just 4-5 good players. That allows you to take complete noobs through... without the anxiety. The 6-man choreography of D2 killed our clan stone cold dead. We're old guys.. we need help. Being able to drag a noob or two through (remember, we're old guys) made it fun.

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          • Indeed. As an autistic gamer I can entirely relate. I love sci fi, FPS and 3d modeling and playing this game is a visual/sonic symphony that cannot be duplicated anywhere else on PC. I (we) try hard. We fail and try again. It isn't possible in word to describe the "communication terror" that happens or the how getting acclimatized to a new environment can take so long (Corrupted strike is a great example of a sensory overloading experience. The combination of ambient noise, visual effects, dimension hopping, jumping platform and fighting coming in unfiltered means there is no capacity left to organize speech. Raid environments tend to be even more challenging.). It may take us a while but we will get there...at some point.

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            • Edited by AlphaHydrae8: 5/28/2019 2:23:09 PM
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              I don't care. - old

              To all my fellow Guardians who suffer from severe anxiety as I do: You can do it! Its going to be rough. Your chest is going to feel like its collapsing in on itself and you're going to bite and pick your nails and fingers bloody raw...but as long as you are with your friends and not in a negative space, you can accomplish great things. Having anxiety doesn't mean someone is incapable of learning and mastering a raid. The only difference is that we can't master a raid when there are toxic people around. We shut down at the face of conflict and toxic people who cause conflict. It has nothing to do with being afraid of the mechanics or being nervous about the game itself, its about who's on our fireteam. Its not about "catering", its about [b]compassion[/b] and [b]COMMON COURTESY. [/b] Nobody seems to have that anymore. You don't need to cater to anyone, but you also don't need to be an a-hole about it either. (Personal experience in the spoiler). [spoiler]I am a Rivensbane and I suffer from severe anxiety. Get yourself a good group of like-minded people and it will make all the difference. I'm one of those that immediately shuts down at the face of conflict and douche-baggery, so not having toxic a-holes on your team is key. When I'm with familiar faces and friends, I do a lot better. A positive space is key. If somebody in your fire-team is being an a-hole, kick them. Don't put up with it as it'll only make things worse. On the first night of our Petras Run practicing, we found some bossy d-bag on the app and it caused me to mess up A LOT. On our 2nd night of practicing, it was all friends and I didn't mess up once. On our 3rd night, we made our first real attempt and suceeded on our first try because, we found two chill down to earth people on Reddit. I couldn't breathe the whole time, but having a chill group with no negative vibes made the difference. [b]All in all, somebody who suffers from anxiety can have all the skill in the world needed to succeed, but all of that will instantly go away in the face of douche-baggery. Don't be an a-hole, plain and simple.[/b] I didn't need anyone to cater to me. (Nobody was catering to me during my solo Shattered Throne runs lol). I just needed people to not be douche-bags.[/spoiler]

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              • I really don’t get why people are such a-holes. Not everything needs to be done in the blink of an eye. Have some patience. Besides, how does that saying go? “Slow and steady beats the race.” I find that taking time will actually allow you to enjoy it. (Coming from a guy who once spent a full hour teaching an illiterate player how to navigate through their settings and menus)

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                • I wouldn’t have guessed that this community would have thrown such a hissy fit when asked to literally just be nice and considerate. Everyone’s acting like op is asking them to do everything for him, all he wants is a little patience and understanding from his fellow guardians. It’s really not that hard.

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                  • I wish everyone could see this comment: For everyone telling people with anxiety to "get over it", get your legs broken with a baseball bat and when you can't walk I'll tell you to "get over it".

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                    • That's a strange way of saying "solo players".

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                      • I mean, it’s a video game.....

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                      • Appreciate the sentiment, but I'll never be someone to announce my problems to strangers during a video game when we're all just trying to have fun. I do think its sweet that you want to support others who struggle. I'm honestly just amazed that this is a perspective from people now; growing up, anxiety was just a cop out or a sign of laziness. It was cold, but I've since learned to take care of myself because the people around me either didn't understand my problems or didn't take them seriously. I'm now an adult and I just don't feel comfortable announcing my personal issues with people I've never at least had breakfast with. My advice for others: The only person you can rely on all the time is yourself; like that saying "you need to love yourself first". No one else can understand your struggle or get inside your head the way you can. Learning to live with yourself is the first step to moving forward. That's just how I feel about this though. I hope the people who have yet to get the right help are able to, and maybe the empathy and support here will push them in a positive direction. Best wishes.

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                        • One thing good that came from your post - you now know some people you would never want to raid with... :)

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                        • What has happened to society... Man up guardian.

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                        • Here come all the internet warriors with their self diagnoses.

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                          • I work for a living. I don't have 4 hours for one raid encounter. So if you're having an attack / a rough day, don't get on and waste both our time.

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                            • How does a stranger on the internet know someone has anxiety?!? I don't care what health issues you have, what colour someone's skin is, your sexual preference or any of that nonsense. If someone is cool il raid with them and help, if they are a pain I won't bother.

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                            • That s not something that's the other players problem. That s something for [i]you[/i] to deal with.

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                              • Lol all the dislikes are from elist tryhqrds

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                              • The worst parts of being an anxiety sufferer in this game are: 1. Building up the nerve to get in a group. You can be hyped all day for it, but when the time comes you struggle with requesting to join. 2. The 1st encounter. You don't know these people. You're worried that you'll be the first to screw up and get chastised or yelled at like a child. you're worried you aren't good enough, even if you know for a fact you are. This causes real physical distress. Hands shaking, panic, sweating. This usually dissipates after ablut 10 minutes of your lucky enough to be with people who aren't assholes. So please, don't be assholes. That simple. Then we calm down and are "normal". I am a mental health professional and anxiety sufferer. It sucks. It's very real. Nobody is asking you to carry us. Just give us a god damned minute to settle ourselves.

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                                • Why even bother bringing up "anxiety"? How about people simply be patient with those they are playing with? Even in frustrating moments, I'm genuinely patient with those who might be having issues. After all, they are also trying to get enjoyment out of a leisure time activity. It's a video game. Most people seem to forget that little tidbit. With that said, the onus is on you to find a group of people you are compatible with. If you are having difficulties with people you are running a Raid with then bail out and find others. It's really not worth the added anxiety. My first real group activity in any video game was VoG. It was an absolute shit-show. Kept me from attempting a second run for months. Five people were -blam!-, moaning, whining and crying at each other while I simply ran through quietly and wondered if a single one of them was older than 12. I was able to gather up a group of people that I was comfortable running with and made quite a few runs in several Raids in D1.

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                                  • Anxiety or not. We should be treating everyone with respect.

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                                    • Dude, I cannot tell you how relatable this post is. I'm a pretty anxious person. I struggle with a pretty bad case of social anxiety. However, Destiny as a game has made me open up more and come out of my shell a little bit due to how the community and the content in the game. Still though, I sometimes struggle of panicking and messing something up in a raid due to having a lot of pressure on me. Yes, I know it's stupid to get so overwhelmed by a game, but when there's 5 other people screaming at you, it makes it hard to not panic a bit. I've noticed I did this a lot at the last encounter for the Last Wish raid. I was always the last one to have the ball and I would mess it up every time due to my anxiety. Like my mind went blank and it was hard to focus. There were times where I was right next to the place to slam it but I freaked out and couldn't find the place to slam it. When I got to know the route to the end, I realized how stupid I was for not seeing where to slam it lolol

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                                    • Remind me of this when people rage quit because they apprently don't have the patience and time to try and get something done when shit happens.

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