[quote]I may finally return to PvP if they listen and add the variety of assault rifles, scout rifles and basically anything besides hand cannons. I'm also one of the few excited for this twab, I use orpheus and those however this brings back the year 1 feel.[/quote] How do these nerfs improve PvP? I didn’t realize Whisper was part of the meta in PvP. I wonder why bu never saw it being used there? Ace wasn’t a meta weapon on console. It wasn’t even in the top 5. It’s a mediocre weapon. Well it’s even more mediocre now. How does the Orpheus nerf bring back the year 1 feel? Tether is borderline useless without Orpheus. Orpheus is what made it worthwhile.