Well sure, that's fair. And I'm not talking about people that exclusively play pvp either. They might have the raw skill but not the knowledge of when to super, when to use heavy, etc. But most players I know play both pvp and pve. And the ones who are really good at pvp are also really good at pve. My point was, pvp is harder to get kills so it forces you to get good, which builds upon whatever pve skill you already had. Or something like that...