Thats not the point. They are part of the meta and contain perks that make then significantly better than other weapons. They actually disrupt the quality of crucible and experience for many of your fellow guardians. If the crucible pinnacle weapons were locked out of no competitive modes..they would still be problematic but not as disruptive to the player experience and to the meta. I think guardians just need an alternative path to these weapons...particularly since they are prevalent in quick play. Your experience may be different but ive witnessed many times just being out gunned by a weapon or seen fellow guardians frustrated either in the grind and the comp lists poor match making and penalty system (solos playing stacked teams with lunas and not forgottens or players leave mid match leaving the. Short handed). Thats not the spirit of pinnacle play, the game or a reward system.