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10/1/2010 9:23:36 AM
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Normal Slayer is for wimps; SWAT is the real test of skill
What is considered nooby for normal slayer:
1. Shields
2. Grenade Spamming
3. Radar
4. Power Weapon Advantage
Now SWAT is the ultimate test of skill, because it focuses on:
1. Reflexes
2. Accuracy (Headshots)
3. Communication (If you're in party chat or game chat with friends)
4. Upmost Equality (Same weapons, no shields)
All you get in slayer are people charging into each other, attempting to get that pummel kill.
That's not strategy.
Or people in quick fight, running away and spamming their grenades at each other, hoping it does the work for them.
That's pretty cowardly.
I've been playing for a while to see the major difference. SWAT keeps you on the edge of your seat. It greatly enhances your accuracy, and allows you to feel for your surroundings. And I don't have to YAWN when I'm shooting someone, due to the ridiculous shielding in normal slayer.
Now some will agree. Other will flame me, and say I'm a COD fanboy. If i was a fanboy, I wouldn't be playing Halo Reach.
[Edited on 10.01.2010 1:24 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PeeEngine [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pgrec People who suck at SWAT will always be the ones dogging it. Swat is reflexes and timing. Saying its just about luck is just a way of trying to make yourself feel better for losing horridly in that game mode. [/quote] Nobody sucks at SWAT; it is literally impossible to do poorly.[/quote] Its impossible to do poorly if you have good reflexes, good timing, and good aiming...yes. Contrary to your statement, some people dont have even those three basic FPS qualities.(Hence the reason why people are crying about SWAT in this thread) [Edited on 10.01.2010 2:52 AM PDT]
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S.laggy W.anker A.utistic T.eletubby I see this guy first, I win!!!!!!!!!! hurrrrrrr durrrrrrr
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I'm not reading this thread completely. I don't care. I am very anti-SWAT and I will tell you why. For the majority of the player base higher levels of strategy and tactics are out of the question. Yes, I am generalizing, but most people really just don't. I'm not particularly great myself! SWAT is a team game type that does have a higher requirement for strategy and skill than most. Unfortunately, lacking the higher end tactics, SWAT is a solo artists game. Simply get away from your teammates and go hunting on your own, the only thing TEAM about that is the points. Ultimately SWAT is a fun game type and I do alright in it despite disliking it so much, but I don't think it belongs in a standard team play list. SWAT is a special game type similar to Juggernaut, only to be played when specifically desired. It is far from the ultimate test of skill. There is nothing skillful about taking out an entire enemy team on your own when it takes little more than a few quick head shots; that's the EASY version of Halo: Reach. Edit: Most bad players like SWAT because they don't have to deal with the DMR bloom most of the time. Learn to shoot. [Edited on 10.01.2010 2:41 AM PDT]
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Swat consists of 3 thing: Host Spawning killing Camping
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I can't aim with a sniper or dmr and my reflexes are crap. I've practiced at it, but I'm not getting any better at it. I basically have to hide when everyone votes for it. SWAT needs its own playlist so it doesn't punish those who can't aim with precision weapons. I like to get up close and personal with shotgun or AR. Nooby? Probably, but I'll stick with what I'm good at.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pgrec People who suck at SWAT will always be the ones dogging it. Swat is reflexes and timing. Saying its just about luck is just a way of trying to make yourself feel better for losing horridly in that game mode. [/quote] Nobody sucks at SWAT; it is literally impossible to do poorly.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GotFall Swat is just CAMP CAMP CAMP, QUICK GUYS, LET'S CAMP OVER HERE NOW. I don't like it, it takes the fun away. It's ok once in a while though. edit;- the worst part is on boardwalk when they camp on the little arch with glass windows where they can shoot under. [/quote]
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well there are some cons about swat to..... u can say whoever has the fastest internet connection wins. whereas in slayer u have a wider range of wepeons to choose from.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pgrec People who suck at SWAT will always be the ones dogging it. Swat is reflexes and timing. Saying its just about luck is just a way of trying to make yourself feel better for losing horridly in that game mode. [/quote]Because you walking around the map and just happening to walk up behind those 4 guys in a row is total map knowledge of enemy placement right?
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People who suck at SWAT will always be the ones dogging it. Swat is reflexes and timing. Saying its just about luck is just a way of trying to make yourself feel better for losing horridly in that game mode.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mr Fuzzums1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PeeEngine How's that nine game losing streak working out for you, Rugged?[/quote]I Laughed Pretty hard at this[/quote] LOL
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I suppose Gruntpocalypse takes the most skill of any gametype then. After all, headshots are the only measure of skill in this game, right? I mean, it's not like headshots are extremely easy to accomplish... That's why it is so much easier to take down Elites than it is to dispatch Grunts...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Czar Breyer I just sharted... therefore your point is invalid.[/quote]Best comeback i have ever seen ever!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PeeEngine How's that nine game losing streak working out for you, Rugged?[/quote]I Laughed Pretty hard at this
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Swat is just CAMP CAMP CAMP, QUICK GUYS, LET'S CAMP OVER HERE NOW. I don't like it, it takes the fun away. It's ok once in a while though. edit;- the worst part is on boardwalk when they camp on the little arch with glass windows where they can shoot under. [Edited on 10.01.2010 2:20 AM PDT]
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Sorry,any good TS player can play well in SWAT,i have seen a few great SWAT players that simply suck on on full shields gametypes.
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SWAT is actually mostly based on random luck. Anyone can aim the headshot kill, its all about who ends up in whos sight.
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How's that nine game losing streak working out for you, Rugged?
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It's easier to get lucky in SWAT, and connection plays a much bigger role. Regular Team Slayer requires more team work, and consistency. Saying it's all nooby is rather ignorant I think.
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I would say that swat promotes camping due to quick deaths. Slayer Pro is really the only gametype that promotes true accuracy and skill. I love swat. It's fun, fast paced, and fairly easy to carry your team in. However the easy deaths promote some pretty noobish tactics. It also doesn't help that DMR bloom makes almost every shot after the first random.
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IMO swat has a more tense atmosphere, it speeds up gamplay, racks up your kills, works on your accuracy and you have to be always aware of your surroundings. Plus it has a cool announcing voice :D
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holy crap you guys dogged this guy lolololol its true though , him being garb is obvious lol
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Anybody can get lucky by swipe shooting a single headshot. Takes more skill to consistantly nail 5 in a row. Btw, this game would be much better if they rewarded players who ALWAYS hit the head rather than just on the 5th shot. And servers for CS had hit location graphs; why can't Reach? It would be pretty damn telling if they had such a thing that kept track of where on the body your shot land over your career. [Edited on 10.01.2010 2:14 AM PDT]
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I don't like SWAT at all if I'm honest. It just kinda feels like a poor mans Modern Warfare to me and it isn't the Halo gameplay i've come to know and love...
