... it is you lol. Ran into 3 fireteams the past 2 days that all switched to not forgotten/dusk rock/wardcliff and still got bodied for the L while we were running dumb crap. You know what's great against luna/nf? Bygones/blast furnace/a bow/ace/vanguard sidearm/last word/black scorpion/last wish raid auto etc. I've even used sweet business against people that have luna to troll them. Fusion's are also a great counter or you could just flat out ape them with a shotty. Point is.... you have a ton of options that will compete with either weapon. High cal/explosive rounds flinch out nf pretty easily.