I'd argue that he's a victim of his corruption and manipulation by others which caused him to behave like he did. That said the corrupted Uldren needed to be stopped before he caused more harm. His resurrection gives him a second chance unburdened by his past and allows him to be better

<The Barons had to die, it was Uldren that was the moral argument. For some, cold blooded murder. To some, vengeance. To others, let Petra do it. As for me, kill out of mercy. The Uldren we found at the end of the campaign was a broken man. Put him out of his misery.>

No, bungie played a good but dangerous card by killing Cayde for publicity.

Yes, but Cayde didn't. Plus, even though -blam!-head was being lied to (manipulated) he still chose his own actions. He pulled the trigger, not riven.

1: Despite Uldrens...insanity...he did say that "everything I did, I did, for her." Indicating he neither regretted or felt sorry, he considered himself jusrified. 2: Uldren, has a history of torturing Guardians to begin with, even if he wasnt under the influence of Riven, he may have still shot Cayde. 3: Uldren never asked for mercy, he wasnt sorry, we see that as he closes his eyes and accepts his fate. In short, a crime was commited and punishment had to be made. Had we captured him, mara would have demanded his release and that would have caused a great deal of issues

No.

"I was just following orders" isn't a defence against War crimes.

Yes. He killed Cayde. Enough said.

Here's how I see it, Uldren killed Guardians and tortured Ghost's as a hobby before he was infected by Riven, this alone already makes him worthy of punishment in my eyes. It did take a while for the infection to fully take over, during that time he was helping the house of Kings kill his own people, but we don't know how much control he had exactly during that moment in time. By the time we confront him he's broken free of Riven and her corruption, and yet still shows hostility and hate for the Guardian and Petra Did he deserve to be killed? It's a bit of a harsh punishment but one he did in a sense earn, but then again that was the only option at that time. The Reef was in chaos, the prison of Elders was destroyed, thousands of Guardians and even Cabal would be hunting him down for what he did (kill Cayde and send scorn to attack the Red Legion) and imprisoning him is what brought us to this problem in the first place I wish we could have done something more peaceful... But in the end death was really the only option, it's either us or someone less merciful

Literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. Congrats uldren your dumb enough to be manipulated by riven so you get a pass. Oh and good for you setting the scorn loose and all the death that caused.

Zavala is looking out for the good of the many. Standing up to his peers and other guardians. Who are letting their emotions control them. I fail to see how Zavala is a coward. Uldren, should he have died? Definitely debatable.

Well if you think that Cayde deserved to die, then Uldren definitely did. What Cayde did in this life was done better or worse for humanity. Uldren did what he did for only person, his sister. This gives Cayde the leg up in that way. Also, while Cayde may have "murdered" millions of criminals and murderers, Uldren literally went to the Reef amid cheers and celebration that he was alive, and proceeded to kill those who were his loyal subjects. I'm not discounting the fact that Uldren was under the influence, But if Cayde deserved to die then Uldren certainly did because not only was he a murderer after the fact, but he was sadistic before as well

[quote]After playing through the campaign a second time, something bothered me a little more than the first go around, so I thought I'd ask, did Uldren reallydeserve to die, especially in such a way, let's look at they events. After Oryix defeated Mara Sov, Uldren came back to Petra Venj saying something along the lines of "she's not dead, I hear her voice even now" we later find out is because of Riven.. So Petra assumes he's crazy and locks him in the Prison of Elders among fallen, who later become scorn.. So Uldren breaks out as sociopath that's hearing his sister's voice would, (his sister that happens to be the Queen) so Uldren kills Caydee 6, and we go after Uldren... Although I do feel Zavala is a coward, he's right, were "guardians not conquers", but that means nothing apparently so we go after Uldren who now works with Scorn.. We team up with fallen to find him (which was kinda cool) and we get help from a criminal namec Spyder, to get revenge for Cayde, an Caydes ghost, even though this guy Spyder is in possession of God knows who and how many ghost/ghost fragments.. We go off to kill all Uldrens allys, an in the process one of Spyders guys dies, we notify him, one of his guys didn't make it, and he says what we sholdve said when Cayde died, Spyder said (hahaha don't worry my friend, just the cost of doing business) but instead of seeing things that way, we kill every Baron that was there when Cayde died.. We confront Uldren only to find out he was being manipulated this whole time by Riven, even though he thought it was Mara, an he was on a Holy mission from God basically, like we totally understand why he did what he did, EVEN GHOST says "look at him he's finished" Uldren even says it's funny how close the line between goid or evil or light and dark is so thin, an he basically asked what side of the line are we on.. So instead of getting him help, what do we do, we gun him down in cold blood like he did Cayde, I'd argue were even worst then him, because we did this in our right state of mind.. I love Cayde just as much as the next Gaurdian, but how many millions of people has Cayde killed, and how many times has he just screwed up, well so much so he had to give his body to Clovis Bray to get rid of all his debt, I love Cayde, he's has one of the most interesting lore behind him as far as characterz go, but there's no denying he's not a saint, and probably deserved o die.. Jeez it hurts saying this, but just some food for thought... I'd argue in a way, were the bad guys, an Uldren is the goid guy, but he just failed in his mission.. Petra even admitted everythingis her fault..[/quote] Osama bin laden was literally a US ally who ultimately went truly 'god' crazy and killed a lot of innocent people. So, did he deserve to die... remember, he was once the CIA's golden boy... even though brainwashed by religion? Yes.

It’s more the gray area of he was under the influence but with the things he’d done, couldn’t really forgive can you?