Just finished the last word quest... it -blam!-ing sucks. its unusable aiming down sights (at least on console, pc i dont see an issue from what ive seen) and that brings it down to ONLY hip firing when EVERYONE is using weapons that can kill you from ranges farther than shotguns, now don't get me wrong people use shotguns, think it would be fine, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO A RANGE YOU CAN KILL THEM WITH THE HIP FIRE, YOUR PROBABLY -blam!-ING DEAD ALREADY. so whats the point of the gun to counter shotguns IF IT LITTERALY CANT EVEN DO WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO DO! and ill keep It real with you chief, IM PISSED, Last Word was my favorite gun from d1 even after the bullshit with thorn it never left my hands for crucible but now its so -blam!-ed that I don't even want to use it but cant bear to let it go. bungie -blam!-ed it, I want it fixed. came back after split with activision, bought the pass, got back into the game, now I don't even want to play it. wasted my time on this quest just to be disgusted by what bungie have done to my favorite weapon in the whole franchise, to anybody who wants to do the quest, don't even bother, its not even worth it
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Use a sniper with last word and get good
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It's a hip fire based weapon, you aren't supposed to aim down the sights. Out of curiosity did you not play D1? or did you just never get it back in D1?
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They removed the perk that increases damage when hip firing, don't know if anyone else noticed that, but it makes the gun feel less satisfying to get.
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Get good
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1. I hope it’s recoil is getting a fix 2. It’s a hip fire based weapon...
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Two things: It's harder to use than Ace of Spades or other typical ADS hand cannons, and it's got relatively low effective range. It's a great gun if you're good with it. Just gotta practice.
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I seem to have an easy time controlling the recoil when I force it still. You gotta control it. It's not a stable thing. But it's very rewarding when you control it.
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Edited by Fudge Yo Couch: 2/1/2019 8:48:45 PMThe gun is excellent if used properly at it's optimal range.
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Edited by TwigTwig: 1/30/2019 2:22:47 AMIt's so so good. Good in air accuracy, insanely forgiving TTK, more range than a shotgun and still usable at other HC ranges. Don't aim with it. It has no recoil from hipfire and the perks are set up to compliment it. Why are you aiming?
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Apparently you never played D1 this is a handcannon that is pretty much meant for hipfiring you can aim with it but it’s not as good but still is good and it’s not meant for long ranges it’s meant for medium or close range if you hit your shots then you shouldn’t have a problem if you hit your shots it can outgun a Luna’s or sometimes a not forgotten
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I couldn't agree more. I loved this thing in D1. Like you it never left my hands. But now its just terrible. ADS is completely unusable and for anyone saying "why are you ADS". We'll there are situations where you need to do just this. The difference from console to PC is mind boggling. BUNGIE. Please do something about this fast. I feel like that grind of 5 hours was a complete waste of my time :(
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I also dislike the weapon. i have a 2 k/d and my last rounds befor i got tlw were great (5-10 kd with 30 kills more or less every round.) i have to say that tlw won't replace my Ace. tlw is pretty bad in my eyes but i guess this weapon is not for everyone.
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You shouldn’t use it at long range. Pair it with a scout or sniper to cover that area and punish people who charge you with TLW. Aim for center mass instead of the head at medium range.
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Yeah, I can definitely see that it needs a buff on console, but controller only, Keyboard and mouse is actually really good.
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It has a 4 body shot kill. Easily one of the lowest TTKs at optimal range (22m or less) If you’re trying to duel someone in pulse range while ADSing, it’s not the gun that’s the problem.
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It’s made for hip fire. You just be new here.
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Dude... it is an amazing gun, you just need to learn how to use it while hipfiring, it's probably one of the best weapons in the game right now.
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It’s almost like it rewards hip fire And especially back in D1 when the damage it output could practically 2tap slap a guardian by hip firing. Nah weapons bad.
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It's made for hip fire so there's that
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you dont ads dumbass
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Tbh get good I’m sorry dude I’m a below average PvP player and I’m doing fine with it
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It's not for everyone, I guess.