PvP recrimination: Change vorpal to an ammo type that reduces range 10-15% but allows snipers in the 90 rpm to shut down a super in one crit and allows 140’s to two crit or one crit two body a super. Allow the return of ambush scopes that are actually low zoom. Its very disappointing that praedyth is a 49 zoom “ambush scope”. Id also recommend that 140’s be changed to 30-40 or lower zoom with an aim assist value of no more than 60 i think. Theyre very unforgiving needing a triple body which i dont mind at all but make them more appealing to the aggressive snipers. Keep snap shot off of them if need be as they already have high handling. 90rpm should rock anywhere from 43-51 zoom and 72rpm should sit at 50+. Id like them to return to forsaken/shadowkeep glory but even I admit beloved had stupid hit registration. I think the aim assist/accuracy is okay. Also i know you’re bringing back pinnacle perks but please dont bring back reversal of fortune. Mulligan is perfectly fine but id restrict it to rapid fire frames that cant roll high impact reserves along side mulligan.

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Sorry to be LTTP for this one. Snipers are the only secondary weapons which penalize you for hitting the body (aka missing the headshot), but are the most affected by flinch which causes you to hit the body (instead of the head). Fusions, shotguns, and GL all have no or very minimal precision damage multipliers. I'm a PVE player, so this feedback would apply to PVE only: 1) Change the PVE damage multipliers to match that of PVP for red health enemies (but keep the absolute value of precision damage the same). Meaning, adaptives have 3x the damage multiplier for precision shots in PVP, so the same should apply to PVE. This will increase sniper body shot damage. For majors and ultras, the lowest precision multiplier should be 2x instead of 2.75x (using agressive frame snipers as an example). So adaptives would have, lets say a 2.25x multiplier and rapid fire would have a 2.5 damage multiplier for example. Again the absolute value of the precision damage value would be the same translating to more body shot damage. 2) Increase the number of low zoom scopes as mentioned by several. 3) Decrease flinch significantly.

why can the tatara gaze one shot body with kill clip but borealis can't with ionic return

Please make flinch recoil more predictable please make some ofbthe blue snipers legendary so we coildnhave short gaze/ambush High impact snipers 1 hit head shot supers

Leave flinch alone please. Shoot first or get DED. Rapid fire snipers have no business double tapping to the body. If anything they should be the snappiest and quickest handling. They should have the most flinch as a trade-off. Also, only high impact snipers should be able to 1 hit supers. And should have the least flinch, and handle slower as a trade-off. Mid impacts should be right in the middle, only capable of 1 hitting supers with low enough resistance. I'd say 3 or 4.

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Started a new topic: Sniper changes

Please bring No Land Beyond back. This sniper is one of the most unique guns ever introduced. It wasn't taken seriously by most but for a select few this weapon was absolutely deadly. I know we have kinetic snipers now however the addition of an iron sights sniper would be cool. Also make some money off of it you already have an ornament for the gun in devrim's hands sell it in ever verse.

I would love it if you could bring back short gaze and ambush on legendary snipers also if you could bring back some of the D1 snipers such as no land also if you could bring back hidden hand and unflinching that would be great

Please just give us shotgaze.

Here are he top prioritys for snipers in D2: 1. Make the overall size of snipers smaller and more conpact, almost every sniper in d2 is super big and bulky when you hold, compared to d1 they’re almost 2x the size. 2. Bring back sights such as shortgaze and ambush, they’re possibly the best sights in the whole franchise for snipers because they’re compct and have a low zoom. 3. Bring back perks from d1 such as unflinching or hidden hand or snapshot or quickdraw, these are the perks which made your sniper really great, and coming from a veteran, getting a roll like this from a vender is the best feeling in the world. P.S bring back snipers from d1 like longbow, 1000 yard stare, LDR and make them easy to get (like being able to get them from vanguard lvl ups) so that people actually have an objective other han logging in and doing he same milestones over and over again. P.S.S is it possible for you to change exotic engrams back to the way they were in d1? As in make them drop as either a primary, special, heavy... etc. and can you make it so you get packages from venders, so when you lvl up wig the vender you have a choice of 3 packages and they’re all different things like armor, weapons, or materials, like from d1, it gives the packages a sense of worth rather than them havung literally no worth other than leg shards and glimmer

Where to begin... In the days of old before the house of wolves expansion, majority of my friends and I were what some call "shotgun apes" that knew nothing of strategy or tactics. Then you blessed us with a game mode called Trials of Osiris (bring it back plz <3) with hopes of getting that sweet loot, the extremely rare shaders and the only exotic emblem in destiny history. We played endlessly that first week in our attempts to make it to the lighthouse. We failed card after card using our same shotgunning ways...we would have small runs of success, but ultimately would fail time and time again to teams with at least 1 sniper rifle. By the last day or two of the first week of trials i decided to take it upon myself to learn how to snipe or "get good" for my fireteam. The sniper rifle that molded me into the player my fellow fireteam knew they could turn to when the night was darkest and no chance of success in sight was ICEBREAKER. I practiced all week long anticipating the next week of trials...game after game kill after kill, one pull of the triger at a time i was getting better... My determination and our hardwork as a team finally yielded us our just rewards (except my emblem inventory was full at the time so i didnt get the emblem until we went flawless again in week 3 lol). Ever since then it was impossible to check my loadout without seeing some sniper rifle equipped, i couldnt get enough. The thrill of a 1v3 while holding a sniper and still somehow feeling in control of a bad situation is something i haven't felt yet in d2. I'm not going to claim to be a pvp god or anything of the like, but i can say some of my best times in destiny was holding a sniper rifle in pvp. Unfortunately there is something that just haven't felt right about snipers when compared to d1...I wasn't 100% sure what the main issue was until watching this weeks episode of IGN's Fireteam Chat. They talk about the comparison of d1/d2 and how not everything can be the same, i understand that i agree with that. The biggest thing they talked about was that in d1 you could get shot while sniping and recover or fight the flinch in a way to still land a shot on your target. Now if you dont land 1 body shot then get sniper flinched going for the second body your going to fail most of the time. We've lost that ability to recover our aim and get nasty kills while fighting through flinch. Often times we appear to have fought the flinch, but bullets don't register somehow. This is the biggest concern i have, to combat this i do think flinch while sniping could be decreased slightly or buff unflinching sniper aim perks to actually make a noticeable impact. Some minor things i'd like to see are more short zoom scopes like ambush/shortgaze make a comeback. I'd love to see the supremacy get the ability to roll snapshot/moving target or snapshot/quickdraw. I'd love for more aggressive frame snipers with low zoom scopes get added to energy weapons to pair with last word. Seems right now most of the best snipers or at least that can 1 hit headshot people out of super are kinetic and cant obviously be paired with last word. Hit registration i think most people will agree in D1 was sometimes suspect...but in D2 its gotten slightly worse and more frequent. I'm sniping a little more now, but i've regressed back to a shotgun ape for too long now simply because of the inconsistency i see with snipers. Very high skilled players still snipe amazingly, i was never on par with them in D1...but i at least always thought with some luck i had a chance... Thanks for listening.

More ammo Thanks.

-Reduce flinch especially since pulses are in the meta right now -Add more sniper scopes and variety -Snipers don’t feel rewarding when I could be useing a shotgun or telesto -A slight increase to aim assist on console at least will drastically improve snipers -Remove useless perks on sniper like hip fire grip -High impact snipers should be able to one shot supers if you hit them in the head -Ammo while using snipers needs to be changed when I snipe someone the only way to get that ammo is to go into shotgun range a way to fix is possibly giving 3 ammo on snipers on spawn. -If these changes were added I think it would bring a lot of players back to sniping.

I would love to see a buff to ADS speed as well as handling for snipers!

Bring back fat reticles and bring back the longbow frim d1 😏

Bungie, I am a year one house of wolves player, and I have over 3000 sniper kills, I have primarily used sniper throughout all of destiny 1 and 2. Since the sniper nerfs in year three that drastically increasing sniper flinch, snipers have been continually phased out of the meta. With close proximity map design and easily accessible and learnable shotguns, they have always been prevalent in the meta ranging from felwinters lie, Matador, party crasher and now dustrock and mind-benders. With all of the options for great shotguns we have very few for snipers, and between those few being fate cries fowl and bite of the fox there are no good scopes which allow to closer up sniper play (shortgaze, ambush). In order for snipers to be truly viable flinch should be significantly reduced, you should not lose a fight with a sniper just because your opponent got the first shot with their primary. Handling on snipes if fine because of the addition of perks like enhanced sniper dexterity. Flinch needs to be turned down.

As someone who has always loved and used sniper rifles in PVP, regardless of the meta, I must say: Please. Please. PLEASE reduce the scope zoom on scopes that are described as "low zoom scopes."

Hey! I'm mostly gonna talk for PVP because I think PVE Snipers are not that much of a problem. For me snipers in D1 were the sweet spot. In D1 players were unhapppy because some people were sniping large lane without moving at all. The level design (maps) in D2 doesn't very have that. In my opinion snipers as well as shotguns and FR should have the same privilege. - Is it possible to kill a Super with a shotgun/melee? If yes, then increase the damage for snipers in the head for roaming supers. If not, keep it like that. (Personally I think both should be able kill a super but that's my opinion. - Sniper, Shotguns, Fusion Rifle should have the same amount of ammo. (Better for the balance) To be honest if you think you don't have enough ammo with 2 bullets then get some gear with ammo reserve/ scavenger. 2 Bullets to me mean 2 kills. In my opinion it's fine as it is. - Flinch is the biggest problem here I think, there should be some flinch on the holder when someone is shooting at them but the flinch should be less punishing. It takes a 1 second (I don't know the exact time it's an example) to reaim the target without being shot (it's a lot), maybe just being less agressive or something. - Skills in a pretty big factor, snipers in my opinion is way more difficult to use then a FR or a SG. So with that in mind should it be HighRisk/HighReward? Such as killing supers or anything else. For Ps4 it's not difficult to aim with a sniper because of the aim assist. Otherwise on PC it's a lot more difficult so take that in mind. I'm not saying you should put aim assist on snipers on PC. On PC the risk is too high to play a sniper because shotguns and fusions are very easy to use and doesn't require a lot of skills. - Buff Snipers don't nerf other gun classes. Decrease draw time for example. - LDR from D1 and others with short zoom/quick draw were very appreciated. I'll list in order what is changes that should be make. 1- Flinch changes 2- Put Snipers as good as other gun classes (Headshot super kills?) 3- Bring back short zoom/Quick draw snipers to the game (such as LDR) That's my thoughts, I've played since the Beta of D1 and I think it should be usefull info. Be the lights with you Guardians. :)