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1/22/2019 4:33:46 PM
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Can we replace stability on pellet Shotguns with Spread?
Stability doesn't matter on a shotgun. Its a useless stat.
So, why not replace it with spread? Stability affects every other weapon, and for Fusion Rifle it affects spread and recoil of the bolts.
The higher, the more accurate/tighter the spread of a shotgun. This would affect hip fire spread and ADS spread.
Then replace stability benefits on barrels, magazine and traits with spread.
The following perks would become useful:
Smallbore (7+ Range and Stability)
Barrel Shroud (10+ Stability and Handling)
Corkscrew Rifling (5+ Range, Stability and Handling)
Assault Mag (15+ Stability and 10+ Rate of Fire)
Tactical Mag (10+ Stability and Reload Speed, 10- Magazine)
Steady Rounds (5- Range, 15+ Stability)
Slideshot (Sliding partially reloads this weapon and gives 5+ Range and Stability)
Threat Detector (Increased Reload, Stability, and Handling near enemies)
Stability Masterwork (10+ Stability)
It can also make balancing shotguns easier. The best shotgun is the one with the highest base range stat (and whenever its a Kinetic so it can be paired along with Luna's Howl/Not Forgotten)
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1 ReplyOnly if someone tells me what the hell rangefinder does on bows since they have no range stat
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How about you be a real man and use a real weapon. Like travellers chosen.
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Also reload 4 range XO
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Shot package
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1 ReplyThey're not called pellet shotguns... It's called buckshot (because I doubt you could kill an armoured guardian with birdshot). Also... why does it matter what kind of shotgun shells I put in my gun? Oh this lever action shotgun NEEDS to use slugs!! And this one needs buckshot.. -blam!- you, I wanna put slugs in my badlander.
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Spread it like butter, baby.
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1 ReplyShot package....
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Stability determines the accuracy of follow-up shots with automatic and rapid-fire shotguns. The more stability, the less recoil. Pellet spread is controlled by barrel selection.
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This would mess up auto shotguns, where stability DOES actually matter
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3 RepliesEdited by Dano2point0: 1/23/2019 3:25:58 PMI'm not too keen on this idea tbh. It would require a significant shift in the base stats and increased damage falloff. I think it can serve a purpose now, particularly in pve with managing the recoil. But they need to create more distinction between the shotgun archetypes and their level of base stability. Have you noticed that base stability is around 50 +/- 10 for every shotgun archetype? We can't notice a difference if they are all the same.
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2 RepliesMost barrels already affect spread
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1 ReplyThis is a friggin great plan! At this point the only masterwork on shotguns that's useful is range. This would make stability masterworks also good.
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3 RepliesBump. It’s refreshing to see a post like this every once in a while.
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Edited by Talia Sendua: 1/23/2019 9:50:15 AMThis is seriously the best idea about shotguns I've seen since D1.
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3 RepliesSounds good so long as the stat is naturally low for high base range Shotguns aka the overused Precision archetype.
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You had me at SPREAD
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That would be nice. You could even make range more effective on shotguns. Let them hit farther out but those long range shotguns be paired with very low spread stat. Making their full damage work on big boss enemies from a longer range but barely hit smaller targets. That isn't the only thing that needs to change. The full auto perk giving a rate of fire increase should be corrected to be the same as it is on every other weapon. It can't be a massive damage boosting perk with no real negative that bumps shotguns over nearly every other weapon. Maybe make it unable to critically hit and have increase spread.
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Remove shotguns? Upvote!
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3 RepliesIt makes sense. Rockets shouldn't have a stability stat either. Or fusions. Fusions should have spread and rockets need...well something.
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16 RepliesI don’t think buffing shotguns is a good idea
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6 RepliesEdited by BraddyBo: 1/23/2019 4:58:10 AMRange should be stat for pellet spread, right now range on shotguns dont mean anything. Dust rock and toil have same ohk range with identical roles although toil “range” is less than half of dust rock.
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I’m quite sure they said at one point this is already a thing. Full auto shotguns have increased spread too.
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6 RepliesDid you ever use 4th horseman in D1? Stability definitely does matter
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We need better stat descriptions period in D3. Seriously, bars don't tell you much, as well as ones on weapons where it barely matters. Oh no my Rocket has 12 stability.
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Agreed
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This sounds like a good idea.
