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#Weapons

1/3/2019 9:01:49 AM
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Nerf Most Heavy, buff Most primary weapons. (MOSTLY IN PVE) PC platform.

Yeah this seems like a good change.

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Nah heavies are fine.

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I just want PVE Buffs to primary's.

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I think heavy is dominating the game (besides shotguns), I propose dropping the damage of heavies by around 10-20% maybe if need be even more. Something fairly modest in my opinion. Some may need to be dropped a bit more or a bit less, that is up to the balance team to decide. (I DO NOT THINK SWORD DAMAGE SHOULD BE NERFED), and upping the damage of most primary's, and buffing the ammo efficiency, of the weaker specials. Perhaps that way Auto rifles and SMG's actually have somewhat of a purpose again. I would definitely like to also see a decent PVE damage buff for all primary. Hand cannons, especially the more OP ones like Ace of spades/Luna's Howl/Not forgotten seem like they are in a mighty fine place so perhaps leave those be. Perhaps just a slight PVE buff to make sure they are competative in PVE for dealing some damage. In PVE, for someone trying to DPS with rockets, then an Auto rifle AGAINST stuff thats ammo efficient like thunderlord or whisper of the worm/Sleeper simulant out DPS them by usually more than triple. The only time this isnt the case is against riven when you have an extremely short DPS phase and she gets hit by every cluster bomb for the cheese. Otherwise whisper/sleeper simulant/thunderlord can still beat it out in some cases. Its sad when I have to carry people who dont have whisper, or sleeper, or thunderlord simply because I have it and can major's and bosses with them, and they dont even have a chance at competing in DPS. Even with using a primary/special ammo exotic. You can even ignore most boss mechanics like Shuro Chi's Eyes resetting DPS phase, all of Rivens mechanics, Kali's Second Phase, Morgeths second phase, All the leviathin raid encounters, etc. Its insane that that amount of DPS can be output just because of heavies, infact I haven't met a boss you CANT cheese mechanics with because of heavies. Which cheesing mechanics arent that big of a deal, its just a little sad that only heavies can do it. Theres basically never another option, and when there is its a special weapon. Now im not saying I want overall DPS to decrease, Im just saying the love should be shared a little bit with primary's to allow some peoples favorite weapons to shine a little bit more for something other than a minor enemy, and "Maybe" A major. I mean most boss fights can be won or lost depending on how much heavy you have/drop's during the fight Its sad. I mean hell, most of the time supers are used for add clear, or a debuff. Its not even worth using a super on a boss unless Its an instant super pop or support super at the beginning or end of the DPS phase or you run out of heavy/want to save heavy, because once you have whisper, or thunderlord with a titan baricade, or sleeper simulant its actually a MASSIVE DPS loss to super in the middle of firing. Its kinda sad really. Gambit people hate heavy ammo because its way to strong for both add clear, boss DPS, invader/invadee killing ETC. And is way to common, I think thats why people complain so much about Queen's breaker/Thousand voices/Thunderlord/Sleeper simulant with the catalyst. In crucible, the person with heavy wins the fight and can kill any opponent unless ambushed, surrounded, or super'd. And even then may possibly kill more than one person/the supering guy. The same exotics and heavy here are called into question but a alot less so because heavy spawns far less in crucible. This would also address peoples requests for many of the worse off exotics to be buffed up to snuff, as many of the worst exotics are in fact primary's. I would recommend AGAINST nerfing ammo drop for heavies, because people do like using heavy and can/should be able to use heavy somewhat often. I just think its way to powerful especially when having scavenger perks specked out for your OP heavy/exotic it allows way to much abuse of it for raw damage on everything and everyone.

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  • 90% of all POWER weapons already do too low damage compared to exotics.

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