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Edited by BraveCole: 12/5/2018 7:39:23 AM
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Fanboys defenses, and why this shit is garbage and inexcusable.

Defense #1: "[i]It's only been out for seven hours. Why are you angry that you have to level up? It's like that every DLC."[/i] Yes, it's been out for seven hours, and the only DLC related thing I've done is kill powerful enemies with power weapons for quest steps. The main meat of the DLC, which is the forge, requires a power level that will take at least another week or two of milestones to even comfortably participate in. I don't want to do the same shit I've been doing for the past 2 months to play the new content. Just imagine if the first story mission of forsaken launched at level 50 with a 500 recommended light. I came into this update thinking I was going to grind the forge and get some new gear. Turns out, I have to grind old shit still just to even [i]consider[/i] grinding the forge. Defense #2: [i]"The annual pass was only 30 dollars, that means each update was roughly 10 dollars each. What did you expect?"[/i] See, I didn't pay 10 dollars for black armory. I paid [b][i][u]THIRTY.[/u][/i][/b] YOU HAVE TO PAY 30 DOLLARS OUT OF THE GATE TO PLAY BLACK ARMORY. AND THIS IS WHAT WE GET FOR PAYING THIRTY DOLLARS. THEY ARE NOT SOLD SEPERATELY. My friend, who got the DLC this morning, dropped THIRTY DOLLARS to play this wack ass update. There is NO EXCUSE. Defense #3 [i]"This isn't an expansion, though. Don't treat it like one."[/i] Yes, the -blam!- it is an expansion. You have to pay money for additional content that expands the game for you and adds new activities. That is DLC. It is an [i]expansion.[/i] A terrible one. Defense #4 [i]"It's just the first day. More is coming later on."[/i] More content [i]later,[/i] doesn't excuse what we have [i]now.[/i] What we have [i]now,[/i] is an activity that barely anyone is able to complete because for some odd reason, they wanted to set the light level to 15 above what the max was [i][b]yesterday.[/b][/i] By the time the raid and the second forge come out, most of us will just be nearing the point where we can actually beat the [i]first[/i] damn forge. If I drop 30 dollars on something, I expect to be able to play the content it brings. I can't do Black Armory Forges, which was the main -blam!-ing selling point. I'm not high enough yet. I have to keep running the same milestone hamster wheel that I've been running since last expansion until I am. That isn't good. That isn't fair. The verdict is: If you haven't bought the annual pass, then DO NOT BUY IT UNTIL: *They lower the light requirements of the forge and allow people to start playing and grinding what they just -blam!-ing paid for. *They sell the expansions separately for 10 dollars. *Until every content rollout up til March has released. This literally feels like a free update with a 30 dollar coat on. Keep in mind, this cost more than Rise of Iron from D1. Let that sink in. This is unacceptable. I don't think Destiny has ever put this much of a bad taste in my mouth.
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  • Boy, you just cannot deal. Rage master supreme, here. TL;DR- I didn't know what to expect, so now I'm angry. Also Destiny is too hard. And if you don't like hard things, don't buy until we- the beta's- have complained enough to make the game easier.

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  • Edited by Shoobos: 12/5/2018 2:55:15 PM
    Man and lets do not forget that even if you finish the first forge ,i have seen some dudes over youtube doing it ,you get a joke of a machinegun ...anyway I did pay around 100$ for all of this shit show at the start of forsaken ,and now I have to grind over and over again when I am 600 with some good -blam!-ing gear just to play a -blam!-ing dlc ...man I want my money back ,sadly you cant on PC ! So bottom line and I am out of this community and -blam!- this game ,lesson learned ,I will wait quietly for Anthem and The Division 2 ,this grind fest is getting boring ..and -blam!- Bungie and their -blam!-ing scheme

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  • I have a question. What other games do you actually play that also requires to do repetitive stuff??

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  • I am all for the Forge being some hard ass content but at the very least they could've made the first time you run through it on par with the initial hard cap of 600. Like round 1 is 600, 2 is 610, boss is 615. This way, you can get your first gun and actually start doing the quests and bounties to get higher light and do the 615-630. Heck, all the bounties and everything from Ada-1 are all locked until you get your first forge weapon anyway. Especially because it's match made. Y'all already know none of the hardcore players are gonna use this cause they all have their dedicated teams. So essentially the casuals who just got this DLC won't even be able to complete the first mission for like another week or two. Especially if you're like me and every milestone you get gives you shit you don't need. Yup, just trying to level up... I'll take 5 damn class items as milestones this week. 😧

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  • Edited by cc99999: 12/5/2018 2:38:04 PM
    Great paper tiger arguments. You can twist anything you want to fit your mood and I applaud the effort. Here's a more rational and logical response, however. Bungie set themselves up for this situation by not more clearly explaining what they were up too. The Annual Pass never "promised" much other than Bungie's position that narrative DLCs for the 2018 and 2019 post-Forsaken launch window, but it would have been better if they explained "Black Armory" has several surprises up its sleeve. When the DLC launches on December 4, your light level cap will raise to 650, you will need light to get access to these guns. This would have gone a long way to set expectations. They didn't, and the impatience of people like you are the result of that oversight. The second thing is that we have no real insight into how this DLC is going to play out. Are these guns fun? We don't know yet. Is the raid cool? We don't know yet. Are the planned live events fun? To be determined. Is the exotic quest for the Last Word going to be on par with Whisper of the Worm? It is hard to say. For as garbage as people say CoO was, it actually had a great Raid Lair. It offered several really cool weapons. Its weakness was Mercury and the campaign surrounding it. For as good as Warmind was, it had a weak Raid Lair and it was still hindered by static rolls. Forsaken was a substantial improvement of the formula, but the idea that Osiris and Warmind were hot garbage is not born out by the facts. Will Black Armory pan out? It remains to be seen. I do think that people taking your position and now and giving up on the game, were never going to be into this game for the long haul. And that's ok. Lots of games out there. But just because you have a knee jerk reaction doesn't make your thinking clearly thought-out of correct. Thinking for other people and constructing a post out of what you think their motivations are is really silly and hardly reflective of the reality.

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    • everyone knew what this was gonna be going in . Not a story driven expansion with a campaign, And at the same time i will admit they were not very clear on the precise nature of what it was . Also let me add (I believe) this content is made to last. And here is my point . Usually when new content drops WE.. the community burns through it in a matter of hours. Let me explain. COO was pure crap, yet we burned through it in a few hours and then said DAM.. that's it Warmind was kinda.. MEH. But we burned through it in a few hours. another example . Breakneck was suppose to take a season to get and earn and yet (myself included) obtained that in one day. Also some people already have , Mountain top. and Loaded question. We as a community burn through the content as fast as they put it out then when we finish were like , This game is shit there is nothing to do. So to remedy this and to cater to the hard core and casual base bungie decided to stretch out content by inflating power levels and time gating content. It's more important to me as someone who lays every day after work to have something to do. I do not want just to do milestones every tuesday then not come back til next week. The forge is something to work towards and to enjoy as you progress. I will bet the next forge will have a higher power level requirement and also the next and so on.

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    • Congratulations!!!! You’ve just won the biggest whiner on the planet award. Lmao

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    • the second you used the word "wack" in what could have been a valid topic of discussion you write of the whole post and whiny and uneducated...go back to fortnite where you belong and leave destiny to the adults!

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      • I am hearing that the Forges open for X amount of time and then close for the next one to open. So when the 2nd forge opens up and we are ready for the first..m it will close. Is this right? Or is the information I got incorrect??

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      • I am hearing that the Forges open for X amount of time and then close for the next one to open. So when the 2nd forge opens up and we are ready for the first..m it will close. Is this right? Or is the information I got incorrect??

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      • So you wanted to get everything done in 20 minutes or something?

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      • You're angry about one thing. And while your anger is totally legitimate (Bungie dropped the ball on this), ask yourself if you'd still be hating this loudly and virulently if the content had been readily available. One mistake, however real and however DUMB (sorry Bungie, but it was), does not make a whole DLC bad.

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        • Crybaby. Waaaaah bungo I want everything and I want it noooooooow. This community is awful. You'll be here bitchin in 3 weeks that there's nothing to do after you no-life forge for a week, guaranteed.

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          • These forums have the most pathetically sensitive adults I’ve ever seen.

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            • This DLC made this year one Veteran want to quit Destiny for good.

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              • The only players who defend this bs use the same excuse: Dedicate and waste ur life on mundane tasks uve already payed for because we strongly believe that skill isn't about player competence, skill is grinding low skill and brain dead tasks for artificial difficulty barriers These players have nothing going on in their lives or are kids looking to feel superior by defending their lowlife grinds Anything to make these no life players feel superior and justify time wasted, the ur self-comfort is obvious and pathetic

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                • Remember when we got all this for Free.... Yeah I do which is why I. DID. NOT. BUY. IT. And I hope many more do the same.

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                • I though everyone learned the right way to listen to Bungo's announcements. Which is do not expect [i]anything[/i] what wasn't [i]explicitly[/i] promised.

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                • Hm, sounds like this was all spoken of before. Oh yeah that's right. They told us! Lol, get real my friend. You all are crying about the forges. When your light is at max. Then you will cry about nothing to do but "boring, long or hard gear grind" why do half of you even play this game if it isn't your cup of tea? Ya know the old saying. Different strokes for different folks.

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                • Bungie tells everyone the level cap increases, tells everyone there will be no campaign, tells everyone things will be rolling out in stages. everyone spends money then stupidly acts shocked that all of the things they were told came true. idiots

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                  • Thank you for your opinion , now that you hate everything don't let the door hit you on the way out... I don't have a problem with how they did this . As a matter of fact , my clan and I talked about this already before it released . It is exactly what we thought it would be , make or stretch it out as much as possible.. This is me being shocked by how they did this 😐

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                    • Yeah in the future I guess I'll pay for the content when it's actually there...not later. And if that wont be offered, guess I wont pay for the content. This is theft.

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                    • Edited by Nuke: 12/5/2018 1:31:49 PM
                      [quote] This literally feels like a free update with a 30 dollar coat on. Keep in mind, this cost more than Rise of Iron from D1. Let that sink in. [/quote] This 100%

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                      • But but but this is Bungie breaking the mold and delivering something new!!!!! They just buried the new things in time gated secrets because they listened to the Community and the community loves time gated hidden secrets

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                      • This is my last Destiny. I don´t trust Bungie anymore since they turned against their own promise the moment they bowed down for the 24/7 streamers.

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                      • I think I know what they did put in your mouth haha xD

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