[b]Apologies for any spelling errors in character names, it is late[/b] Okay, I’m going to make this very quick. It’s on the subject of Darkness guardians, and Dredgen Yor of course. No this won’t be my usual ‘The Darkness drives people insane, good luck after killing your own ghost’ message. This is indisputable [b]fact[/b]. Dredgen Yor was [b]NOT[/b] a Darkness Guardian. Anyone who uses him and the Shadows as an argument for Darkness Guardians are fundamentally barking up the wrong tree. Look at Yor. What happen to Rezzil Azzir? Well, he went down into the dark pits of the Hive on the moon and spent an extended period of time in a particularly dark chamber without his ghost. This did not result in his madness, however. What did result in his madness was the act of grafting Hive bones to the Rose, his weapon of choice. These bones altered the weapon with Hive arcana, and also altered the Titan mentally. When he finally saw the Rose for the Thorn it had become, he took up his new name and set out of his bloody quest. Now, some things to note. Does Azzir possess some Darkness subclass? The answer is no. The instrument of his rampage was the same reason he was motivated to embark on it in the first place. The Thorn. It was a weapon capable of draining a Guardians light and rendering them permanently dead, much like the Sword of Crota. As for the Shadows of Yor, they seek to harness the dark power that the Thorn embodied, without the adverse side effects. Not through darkness subclasses, but by crafting a similar weapon to Thorn. Note that Callum kills his Ghost after a long and bloody history before that point. He’s already dipped off the rails a little from whatever he has experienced. If the Shadows original intention was to embrace the Darkness, why keep their ghosts for so long? Because it isn’t their aim. They want to harness it through weapons and not suffer the consequences Dredgen Yor did. Hopefully this post illustrated the mischaracterisation of these characters, or at least let you understand how I came to these conclusions. Thank you for your time. I hope I wasn’t too boring to listen to.