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Edited by Cloaked in Zero:
11/16/2018 5:40:41 PM
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Blade Barrage, Nova Warp, Telesto & Bygones
So...I'm seeing these two supers way too often. Nova Warp basically gets you free Reapers and lasts forever, Blade Barrage kills you even if you run behind a wall and it's remarkably rare that you can kill the guy before it goes off. It honestly just really sucks because it's hard to counter them at all, there isn't much you can do. You can't tether a Blade Barrage because it activates too fast. If you tether a Nova Warping Warlock, their last blast goes off automatically and destroys the tether too.
Regardless, point is, these are starting to make the Crucible boring and frustrating because of how powerful they are.
Does anyone else notice this or am I just crazy? Now, by no means is this calling out the people who use the meta, because folks are always gonna gravitate towards what nets them easier wins.
I'm more looking at Bungie, whom I hope does something about this to bring those supers back to a level power state. Because at the moment, they're becoming the only classes to play, along with Bygones, Telesto, and/or Wardcliff Coil being staples of the weapon meta.
I'm sure folks are gonna argue with me saying
"Well I killed a Nova Warper just fine"
"Dude just use Blade Barrage or Nova Warp yourself"
"Learn to dodge Blade Barrage, I do it all the time"
and the classic "You're a crybaby" (most likely coming from the people who want to preserve this meta so they can keep roflstomping people)
But, who else has noticed this? That's really all I'm asking is who else sees these combinations dominating the Crucible?
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8 RepliesU have 200 glory... do u even crucible?
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7 RepliesEdited by Rohirin: 11/17/2018 3:02:41 AMNature of the beast, titan fun police, fist of panic, Antaeus Wards. All you need right there. Oh and tractor cannon as well. 😄 Edit-Autocorrect strikes again.
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9 RepliesIf they nerf Nova/Blade Barrage they need to nerf a couple Titan Exotics also. I'd say every class has some OP stuff going on, which is balance isn't it?
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1 ReplyI appreciate the feedback, but you can't deny the state of destiny1 after all the nerfs. I don't want a repeat of that.
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4 RepliesI think nova warp is really good, but I don’t think it’s as broken op as people make it out to be. Maybe it’s because I use chaperone (which is really good against nova warp), but I usually have an easy time killing nova warps unless they pop the super really close.
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You suck, are you going to be on at midnight so we can play?
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3 RepliesSo Blades, there is actually a couple of counters to both... doesn't work 100% of the time, but I've managed to pull it off a few times. Middle tree Titan; you can shield block the BB but you have to make sure none of the knives explode behind you, and I was wearing DoomFangs or Mask of QO.. with 8+ resilience. And you have to hold the shield up until the Hunter is back on the ground.. Nova Warp...friggin hate the length of time it lasts, but it is possible 2 counter. Suppression nade works if you can time it just right, you have to pop your super before the Nova booper gets close, keep the shield up and get as close 2 the Lock as possible n just wait till they charge, as soon as their charging...shield bash away....Nova countered.... I'm not a tryhard... or even really good at pvp, just enjoy the challenge of it and like playing. I've been through Thorn, Last Word, Self Res w/ sticky nades, bubble titans with Swordbreaker or Icebreaker, hard scoping with 1k stare..... there's always as counter, just not that easy to always find. Good luck man.. .
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Its called the meta. It changes here and there. Its better to have a meta than to NERF stuff. Believe me.
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4 RepliesWhat I want to know is why the hell does nova warps’ blasts go through walls and have to do 100% damage regardless of the the blast origin. Like this super is so stupidly powerful I drives me nuts the people say it’s balanced. If someone pops nova warp and wants you dead they can use warp like 3 times travel into the future and be where you were gonna be for the first day of your unborn child’s first day of school and vaporize you both. Like it drives me nuts that if someone wants you dead they will pretty much get you dead. Like if I pop arc staff, fist of havoc, or like spectral blades or something I’m not NEARLY as likely to kill the person as I am with nova warp. Like the room for error is so damn large compared to literally all other supers in the game.
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4 RepliesI use Bygones, Telesto, and Nova Warp and will continue to use them as long as the shotgun meta persists. The meta is SHOTGUN lol
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Edited by Sweet_Victoree: 11/16/2018 10:38:44 PMDitto. It's all i see... Well not all... But most.
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I agree completely. The crucible is a snooze fest designed to cater to meta dick riders.
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4 RepliesEdited by quadracer786: 11/16/2018 10:20:46 PMBlade barrage needs a longer animation time. Otherwise it just cant be stopped in time. When you can get guaranteed kills will it plus shards to get the super back it's just too much reward with no risk. Nova warp either needs a health drop or a duration decrease. Everything else is fine, but the fact you can go from one side of the map to the other and kill everything in between while tanking all damage is pretty broken. Telesto just needs more projectile spread so it cant hit from insane ranges. It needs to fall in line with other fusion rifles range.
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6 RepliesThundercrash needs an overshield when used, for the initial activation anyway, maybe not if you're in the air a few seconds
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3 Replies100% agree, comp is just back to season 3 except instead of four arcstriders it's just four blade barrages or four nova warps with bygones/telesto/play of the game or dust rock blues/luna's/not forgotten/wardcliff It's so stale and so cancerous and painful even trying to play against it as a Titan or another class that isn't running the meta and ruins the fun so much Having OP exotics like shards which give you your super back for getting easy-mode kills on an already no skill super just makes it worse
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2 RepliesEdited by BITCOINxMILLIONAIRE: 11/17/2018 6:18:59 AMI just run middle tree arc strider and watch gunslingers kill themselves. but yah they are popular. Good players are still gonna do good regardless of what subclass they running or weapons they use. In d1, it was nightstalker, stormcaller, and all the fusion nade subclasses. People gonna use what they want, adapt and find a way to counter it.
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We all know nova warp is going to get nerfed. I'm guessing it will get more damage and drain much faster.
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3 RepliesNo you are right, this current meta relies to much on causality, All that is top on the ladder or used the most doesnt require aiming at all, and the few ones that do just have either a really strong aim assist or no recoil. Telesto Wardcliff coil Blade barrage Lunas Nova warp
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I always run away when I hear a super pop. Or jump off the edge and wait out the respawn
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I don’t mind the supers,we all wanted better supers and now we have them. My biggest hatred in crucible was teams holding hands for the whole match and thanks to BB especially teams are more reluctant to do that. The only thing I really don’t like at the moment is telesto ,that sh*t is just annoying as hell.
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5 RepliesYup. Even though I’m a Gunslinger main, I’d be fine with BB getting nerfed if Nova Warp does. Nova Warp just [i]too[/i] good. I’d say telesto is fine, though, it helps people counter the shotgun meta.
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3 RepliesAgain who cares? You want a competitive pvp game? Go check out literally any other shooter in the market. This game is inherently unbalanced because it is loot based. Because the game feels better when we are given very powerful abilities and weapons. And because the game is not made to satisfy PVP. PVP is a side activity. There are planets to scour, quests to complete, secrets to find and raids to be raided. Go try that.
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4 RepliesI run barrage to simply kill warps And it doesn’t even do that well Warp is so stupid, I dono how it’s not being addressed
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1 ReplyIntelligent people will know that nova warp and noobtoob barrage are overpowered as hell.
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1 ReplyI enjoy nova warp and blade barage in the crucible but I agree that they are broaken af. It seems like the nova warp kills you a mile away and its almost impossible to escape blade barrage. Adaptive pulses could also use a slight nerf
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1 ReplyI don't agree with the Nova Warp one. This is the first real power house super the Warlocks recieved. None of our supers one shot anything accept Nova Bomb. But if you're low on health and the bomb is close to the user, the user dies. Why was that the only super to damage the user? And it doesn't one shot people completely unless you fully charge it. Blades Barrage, I would like to see a little reduction to the tracking. Like, I've died behind walls in my super at full health from that.
