Remove all participation rewards from PvP. Put in rewards requiring activity. That will remove intentional AFKers, as this will not give them anything.

Agreed but it does happen in both pve and pve. I was running haunted forest over the weekend had one guy sit at the start through all 6 branches with no possible way to kick them. Next round I had 2 guys both sit at the start until I hit branch 7 final kill tally was 157 for me 35 and 0 for the other guys. I know you can report but I would rather just kick a useless bag of dicks out then report them and have them still in the group

Super easy and simple fix for this .. leave the number of milestones untouched but make them "either or" You do a strike OR a round in crucible , You do a heroic adventure OR a gambit match (Put matchmaking in the nightfall) You do the nightfall OR win a round in competitive Etc. See easy One catch though: Bungie would never do this because then the crucible numbers would plummet ..

The problem here, has many branches. Some, want the rewards, but hate PVP. Some want to play PVP, and want the rewards, but are so outmatched, they quit trying. Some go AFK to protest. The list goes on. You see, matchmaking AGAINST low/mid level players can be great fun for those that are very good at the game. The thing is, with zero SBMM in the game, you have to expect that those same low/mid level players, will end up ON your team. Most could care less when they are matched AGAINST those players, and come on the forums to bitch when they are matched WITH those players. PVP really needs to be separated from the rest of the game. Or, as it was when the game first came out, BALANCED. It may not be to everybody's liking, and it may bring about play styles that you don't care for, but that is really what we have now, except its in the higher level players favor now. Many, hate the shotgun meta, the high heavy ammo meta, the extreme matchmaking, etc. Just like many of those that like crucible now, hated the team shot meta, or the balance the game had when it first came out. There will never be the perfect PVP for everybody, and just like many quit the balance era of the game, many do not care if they ruin the game for players such as yourself, or anybody for that matter, when they know they have no chance at helping the team anyway, and just want the reward. Yes, there are some, like me, that hated some of the changes made to PVP, and stay away because they don't enjoy how the game plays now. Some of us can forsake the rewards, to not play something we don't care for. But we are very few in number. The ones that care about how fun the game is for everybody, not just ourselves.

I only play for the milestone. I do try at first but if I run into a stack that just owns me I stop trying and run to them and just emote til it is over. Is only way to save my sanity and controller lol.

I do it all the time. I hate crucible. You know what would fix the afk? Stop putting milestones in crucible. I feel like im forced to be there and i dont want to be. Did you notice when they switched the requirement from participating in matches to simply being in 5 matches? I sure as hell did. Makes my job easier.

The best solution for this is delete crucible

Solution would be to make power engram more difficult to finish. 100 headshots, 200 kills,30 super kills,10 nade kills. Make players actualy participate in order to get power drop. Completing 5 matches promotes this lazy afk stuff going on.

you gota go to the bathroom ? get kicked. You need a drink ? get kicked. Someone you live with is trying to talk to you ? get kicked only serious try hard gamers are allowed in destiny. Sacrifice your life or get kicked

What is AFK?

It's not a pvp only issue. There are plenty that go afk during pve which sucks. With that said, while i dislike afk players as much as the next person, I think this is something gamers just have to put up with. I say that cause people being afk has been going on in games way before destiny, and will continue way after destiny has ended. At least bungie has the report option in the game that we can use which will keep us from matching with the afk person again, that's better than nothing. Edit: just read down through the thread more and i highly disagree with the idea of not putting powerful engrams in pvp. Whether you like it or not, pvp is part of the game and should get the same things that pve gets. The same goes for people that dont like to pve. Just cause you dont like it doesnt mean bungie should do away with doing things for that side. Here's an easy solution for those that dont like certain things in the game: dont play them. In this case, there are plenty of powerful engrams all throughout the game, so you skipping the pvp ones wont hurt your leveling up.