Sleeper is OP. Just because things have been considered OP before doesnt negate the fact that Sleeper is OP.

Ok, here it is in CRAYON. Everything I mentioned has been whined by people who don't care to learn the map or weapons or abilities or, dare I say, freaking tactics. Instead, people such as yourself covers your ears, close your eyes, and shout, "OP! OP! OP! NERF! NERF! NERF!" So here's the question that has never been answered. At what point did you realize that maybe you're getting dropped by a better player who learns the game and can use whatever weapon he desires to drop you because you REFUSE to learn? Please, answer that question and we can continue on with my list. Because, I've been killed by the sleeper in D1 and D2 with the Warmind DLC. In and out of my Super. Guess what? It's a FREAKING RAIL CANNON!!! IT IS SUPPOSED TO ONE SHOT YOU BECAUSE IT IS THE DEATH STAR IN YOUR HANDS!!!! WHINING FOR A NERF SOLVES NOTHING AT ALL!!!! BECAUSE ONCE YOU THINK YOU'VE WON THE SLEEPER NERF WAR, PEOPLE SWITCH AND ADJUST AND IDIOTS WILL WHINE AGAIN!!! SO SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, AND LEARN! OR Go back to extreme Minecraft, Fortnite, CoD, or whatever else PoS PvP only game where you feel empowered with a useless opinion. THIS Guardian fights on and counters the Sleeper users. Finally, the list I posted is EVERYTHING, minus a few topics, is what people have whined and complained about to be reduced to what it is. And while you think you've won, you just screwed a lot of other players over. And do not give me the, "Well, my friends and clan agree this needs to be done", crap line. Now either come up with a better retort or step off...

[quote]Ok, here it is in CRAYON. Everything I mentioned has been whined by people who don't care to learn the map or weapons or abilities or, dare I say, freaking tactics. Instead, people such as yourself covers your ears, close your eyes, and shout, "OP! OP! OP! NERF! NERF! NERF!" So here's the question that has never been answered. At what point did you realize that maybe you're getting dropped by a better player who learns the game and can use whatever weapon he desires to drop you because you REFUSE to learn? Please, answer that question and we can continue on with my list. Because, I've been killed by the sleeper in D1 and D2 with the Warmind DLC. In and out of my Super. Guess what? It's a FREAKING RAIL CANNON!!! IT IS SUPPOSED TO ONE SHOT YOU BECAUSE IT IS THE DEATH STAR IN YOUR HANDS!!!! WHINING FOR A NERF SOLVES NOTHING AT ALL!!!! BECAUSE ONCE YOU THINK YOU'VE WON THE SLEEPER NERF WAR, PEOPLE SWITCH AND ADJUST AND IDIOTS WILL WHINE AGAIN!!! SO SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, AND LEARN! OR Go back to extreme Minecraft, Fortnite, CoD, or whatever else PoS PvP only game where you feel empowered with a useless opinion. THIS Guardian fights on and counters the Sleeper users. Finally, the list I posted is EVERYTHING, minus a few topics, is what people have whined and complained about to be reduced to what it is. And while you think you've won, you just screwed a lot of other players over. And do not give me the, "Well, my friends and clan agree this needs to be done", crap line. Now either come up with a better retort or step off...[/quote] I totally agree, a beer for you sir. That's what people will never understand, nerfing is just a stopgap but not a solution. We've learned (my clan) how to counter it. One basic first step is to hide, not staying right in the middle of the map (easy target). I've killed so many "sleeper" invaders using the hide technique, forcing the opponent to look for me while another team member strikes him in the back. In D1 there was another demonic weapon called Thorn. I got killed many times with it, but never cried, instead i found a way to be better just for counter. Then i got mine, but soon was nerfed to a level that it was practically unusable.

Next time contribute to the discussion instead of slinging insults.

Next time don't come to a disagreement unprepared. Like your playstyle, you lack a good counter or strategy.