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9/21/2018 7:18:02 AM
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The problem was Sleeper Simulant. It became a must have after the first few days of Forsaken and since it's a OHK gun that's super easy to use, people were having a harder time getting the gun than Bungie planned. People also ended up abandoning the objective of Gambit for the quest, so quest chasers were also messing up the game for other players as well. Players wanted an alternative to just Invader Kills (which is hard enough to get with just a HC), and as someone who only managed to get 3 kills before the quest was changed I can sympathize.
So I agree with the motive but not the outcome. I agree with a lot of others that the new quest is super easy, too easy even. I don't think it's what people were asking for, I think changing it from 5 kills to 3 would have sufficed (maybe adding other objectives too? Get HC kills in regular crucible and strikes?). I think maybe putting another Sleeper nerf, or more, would have also sufficed as well, maybe make HCs more viable in Gambit even.
Tldr Bungie probs didn't plan for the Gambit meta to be as punishing as it is and decided to make the quest more accessible.
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So sleeper is the problem and the solution is to nerf AoS quest? Yep, the same BS all over again. People need to stop whining and put in the time and effort just like everyone who already completed this. And i will say it again, it is 5, FIVE FREEKING KILLS. Thats like 3/4 games if you pay attention to the invaders.
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Yet, you didn't absorb exactly what he posted did you? Read it again, calmly...open that mind UP, read it OUT loud, I dare you.
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Oh yes i did and all I read is BS reasons that have nothing to do with putting in the time and effort to complete a simple step. Stop crying for easy hand-out exotics. It didn’t work in D2/Y1 obviously, and it will ruin the steps in the right ditection they’ve made in Forsaken.
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Except you're not the only one trying to get the kills; you're competing against other quest chasers and regular players using Sleeper to OHK the Invader. And then there's the fact that the quest chasers are focusing more on the quest than the actual game mode, which ruins it for everyone else. It's not that the 5 kills are hard to get, it's the competition for the kills plus the quest clogging up a 4v4 game mode where every player counts.
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Well, that didn’t stop me (mediocre player at best) from completing. So I can’t even imagine how shit you have to be to struggle with this step. If you put in even half the effort you put in defending this BS you would have completed this on all 3 chars already.
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Dude, I'm just explaining what the problem was. You asked. Don't go bitching to me about how you don't like the reasoning.
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Why do you even care though? Other people get Ace of Spades. Good for them. They'll use it for 2 days then shelve it. Sleeper gets an aim assist nerf which isn't much of a big deal anyway. You could literally hipfire 2 feet to the side of someone's head and get a headshot. It'll be fine.
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First off, I’m not talking about sleeper here. I’m talking about the nerfing of an already easy quest step. Second, I don’t know anything about your Destiny “career” but for me and a lot of others, D2 vanilla exotic quests where all easymode. Now this is one of the big reasons I, and again, a lot of others stopped playing. These weapons are exotic, and they should represent that to the fullest. Stop the easymode hand-outs. This queststep isn’t even hard to complete. Just put in Some effort instead of heading to the forums complaining. And if you don’t like it, stop playing it.
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What you're saying is you're an elitist who believes everyone should have to do what you did. Giving them the item is one thing. Making the quest easier is another. It's a video game. It's okay for people to enjoy what they're doing and it not feel like a job to earn the content they paid for.
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Read back my comments. I clearly state that I am mediocre at best. How in hell can you call that elitism? I don’t want bungie to make the same mistakes (cater to the casual player) they’ve made when they made D2 all over again. How is that so hard for you to understand? To top that, why do people feel everything should just be an easy hand-out in this game? What is the fun in that?
