Hold on. You think that rpg elements that make you feel like your actually playing as a character, and skills that allow you to develop your character as you want, are a chore, but playing the same strike, to get shit gear you dismantle, to hand in token to a guy, to get and engram, to decrypt and get more shit, is fun?

No, see you misunderstand me again. I play a LOT of games in general Alpha. I remember when videogames were all text based and didn't have pictures. Nearly every single RPG you've ever played is just a table-top D&D clone with altered elements. The exceptionally well done ones with the highest level of detail/skill/strategy are turn-based and not action oriented. Divinity Original Sin franchise would be a great example of a highly involved and deep RPG. I love that style of game in general. Yet, when the model is adopted in action titles, it tends to become exceptionally mundane and bastardized. At that point and time, i'd prefer a stronger focus on action and less on detailed RPG elements as it is usually poorly done in titles like this. See Division, or Borderlands, or recent Mass Effect. The more action oriented, the less capable of an RPG it can be. You have to slow things down to be a proper RPG, which is why turn-based games always do it best and nearly ALL of the super successful MMO's have been attacks/spells on a rotation and not pure real-time action. Have you played the Forsaken DLC yet? Based on your statements, it doesn't seem like you have.

No but I've heard alot from my friends and watched alot. I would preorder destiny 3 if they promised and showed that rpg stuff.

Guessing your friends are still stuck in the pre-Forsaken version of Destiny then and haven't realized the changes on the leveling or gear acquisition. It's all challlenge based now, no longer a token-fest. Random rolls are back, and difficult content exists (instead of everyone just spamming public events to max). But I wouldn't suggest buying/pre-ordering anything from this franchise knowing your mindset on what you want. You're better off with games like ESO.

See that's the thing. I want to love destiny. There's so much good.