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9/2/2018 4:13:40 AM
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The Weird Relationship Between Golden Gun and Sentinel Shield Guard

A friend and I conducted an experiment after some weird interactions between Golden Gun and Sentinel Shield Guard in Crucible. For this experiment, we used no exotics other than the Celestial Nighthawk, as it essentially functions as its own Golden Gun variant. Classic 3 Shot Golden Gun vs Sentinel Shield Guard: Interactions with this revealed that if all 3 of the Golden Gun shots are landed on the Sentinel Shield, both Supers will end, essentially negating each other. Winner: Draw Celestial Nighthawk Golden Gun vs Sentinel Shield Guard: Surprisingly, the strongest of the Golden Gun Variants is unable to defeat the Sentinel Shield. The Golden Gun Super ends, but the Sentinel Shield Super will still maintain at least half of its energy to continue the fight. Winner: Sentinel 6 Shooter Golden Gun vs Sentinel Shield Guard: This one was even more surprising to both of us. The 6 Shooter is supposed to be the weakest variant of Golden Gun, but strangely, it’s the only one that can completely take down the Sentinel Shield Super and still stay active. It only takes 4 shots from 6 Shooter to take down the Super, leaving 2 to finish the job. Winner: Gunslinger. Conclusion: It’s pretty weird how this is working:

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  • Its also weird that a Nighthawk shot can't penetrate through a Ward of Dawn and kill its user. Maybe it would be OP but a Nighthawk shot screams [b]high piercing potential[/b]

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    • Three words for you [spoiler]Working as intended [/spoiler]

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      • I've noticed in Crucible that hunters using the Six-Shot GG and getting a kill with almost every shot of it will have an abnormally high damage in the post-match screen after a game of Clash. I've seen a couple hunters with total damage exceeding 15,000.

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      • I just really want 6 shooter to take out another super with one shot, if I can be 1 hit while in mine, I feel like I should be able to 1 shot them. Just my two cents.

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        • Not really weird. Guarding against anything has never been based on damage done to the shield. just how often the shield is blocking damage.

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          • Bungie Dev : Am i seeing nerf hunter. I could swear i saw this guy say nerf hunters. Hunters having any chance to be fun and win IS UNACCEPTABLE. GUYS GET ME THE NERF HAMMER

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          • Never bring a...shield to a gun fight?

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          • I mean everyone in PvP is too busy screaming and complaining to know how to block anyway so it doesn’t really matter

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            • Edited by DuBChiri2: 9/2/2018 11:22:42 PM
              Even weirder relationship: Celestial nighthawks golden gun only takes out about half of the ward of dawn's health, but nova bomb, regardless of which type, instantly destroys it. The weirdest one: Sentinel can now block nova bomb and still have energy, but 3 golden gun shots destroys the shield. Weird is weird.

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              • Wait until the new supers come out I don’t think the ward of dawn will be a problem for the kamehameha wave or missile man.

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              • [quote]This one was even more surprising to both of us. The 6 Shooter is supposed to be the weakest variant of Golden Gun[/quote] Who told you that? The 6 shooter is the weakest variant in PvE, yes. But for PvP it's far superior. The 3 shot is only better for crit shots increasing damage in PvE.

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                • Thank you for the data.

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                • Edited by Brickinthewall87: 9/2/2018 11:45:46 PM
                  This could be explained by a damage cap on super attacks in pvp

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                • Could be wrong but i was under the impression the 6 shot variant did the same amount per shot as the 3 shot does on body hits. Thats odd that celestial doesnt take it down though. Maybe theres a damage cap per source of incoming damage on the shield.

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                  • Interesting. Is it possible that the Shield/Golden Gun interaction isn't damage based, but is instead 'number of hits' based, with some variation depending on Gunslinger tree? Does CN damage to the shield change based on which Gunslinger tree you're using?

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                    • Thanks for sharing.

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                    • Ok but the only case where the gunslinger is ad disadvantage is she he's using a pve exotic in PvP.

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                      • That explains quite a few of crucible matches... thanks for the info!

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                      • Very informative and weird indeed

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                      • It is weird a shield acts like a shield and a gun acts like a gun ?

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