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8/29/2018 2:39:53 PM
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Shoulder charge vs throwing knife?!

How is something like shoulder charge a 1 hit kill? When throwing knife (extremely skillful) not?

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  • I’ve always Mainer hunter since D1 and throwing knife should not be a 1 shot kill. Should it do 150 damage? Yes. It would be more OP than shoulder charge. Especially with the gunslinger perk that restore knives on precision kill.

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    • Throwing knife doesn’t take that much skill to use lol. Besides, with the new weapon changes shotguns and fusions quickly deal with a mindless Titan.

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      • You're comparing apples & oranges. Skill (throwing knives) vs. ease of use for the masses (shoulder charge). 4+ yrs of polls & endless comment on this shit + usage tables tells the tale there's no argument. Titan users SHOULD admit their position, there would be more dignity in it. And as a Hunter......you need to admit YOUR position instead of bitching. Shoulder charging Titans are easily countered. Period. They're one dimensional = fertile ground. Throwing knife/sidearm; shotgun; SMG....etc., etc., etc. Use what you have and get results. It's your problem that you don't have 1v1 skills.

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        • LOL and what about Warlocks? Don't even have the longest melee range in D2 :/

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          • Extremely skillful, lol. The thing has magnetism. I've seen knives veer off to hit the guy if my aim was off center. Most people who want 1 shot knives want a panic button for losing gunfights.

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          • Shoulder charge “charge” should go away after a few seconds like in d1 so you don’t constantly have it up...just make an exotic that lets you have it up indefinitely. Thoughts?

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          • Edited by Icon: 8/30/2018 3:29:22 AM
            Agree hunter knife should be 1 hit if it’s a crit, so many derby titans on this thread though 😒🤢

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            • You know shoulder charge where you can't shoot while you are planning to use it? Versus throwing knife where you can throw without even planning for it during a gun fight? Yeah that's why shoulder charge is ohk you have to commit to the kill and have no other option besides stopping and shooting which will kill you. A throwing knife at any point in or before a throwing knife is not committing to risking everything for a kill and you have a lot more options to kill someone if they shoot you or even get away a shoulder charger has to commit has to fight or plan their attack a throwing knife does not.

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            • Modern Warfare 2 is finally back on Xbox, you can go play that instead, whenever you want to PvE, come back to Destiny, problem solved.

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              • Edited by PR4X1S: 8/30/2018 11:02:52 AM
                So a fully armored knight shoulder charges me shrouded in lightning 😏, or a Lil dagger flies into me 😒 methinks I'd survive that dagger, unless it hit me in the dam eye.

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                • We should be comparing Shoulder Charge to the New Hunter Melee that requires not only a sprint start up but also a slide to proc. Should the new Hunter melee one shot in PVP? Thoughts?

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                  • The fact that you are comparing a knife to a full on body slam is baffling. Secondly, you must've not played destiny 1. Seeing as how thats what they reverted shoulder charge to. Also, gunslingers have a perk that returns their knife on precision kills. If knives were one shot to the head, we would be unstoppable. Kind of a stupid argument there.

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                    • I wouldn't be opposed to this, especially if it required a headshot. One balance point that any OHK needs is a Resil rework. Would be cool to see the stat have more meaning. If 10 resil kept a shoulder charge from being an OHK (albeit, still leaving you with only a few HP) it would feel like resilience made you tougher. ... although my thoughts on Resil and other stats goes way deeper than that. But back on topic, a throwing knife should be precision OHK capable. If it's too powerful in testing, simply add a little damage drop off so you can't literally map someone with a lucky toss.

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                    • Edited by Destiny89: 8/29/2018 10:36:29 PM
                      Hunters had way too much fun for the the past year. The jumping, the shadesteps, the wormhusk heck hunters even got a melee that blinds you and smoke you! For a year crucible was nothing but hunters!! As a Titan main I'm tbagging every hunter that gets shoulder charged!!

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                      • Because hunters are already OP

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                        • Hunters had their time with their op exotic n stupid hopping/invisible shenanigans lol now it's our turn!

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                        • close range+velocity vs range+instant throw. this is why

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                        • Yes because bottom tree gunslinger doesn't have a perk that resets throwing knife on precision kill, hunters don't have a dodge that regen throwing knife, hunters don't have an exotic that allows for two throwing knife charges, throwing doesnt take any animation time what so ever, can be done from even cross map distances by a skilled hand, and even worse has so much aim assist on console that you can aim at someone's waist and it register as a precision hit.....but yes please make it so that through whole crucible matches hunters have a 1hk throwing knife available for every gunfight and every enemy, with no need for a pause for cool down timers....we've made it ladies and gentlemen, hunters have gotten to the point where they want to enter the crucible and be able to just look at someone and kill them.....you're and idiot....

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                          • Edited by OdinsKnight101: 9/1/2018 12:39:19 AM
                            Other than Titan skating in D1, I don't remember any other edge they have ever had in the crucible. Plus as a biased Titan main I'd like to add a quote from another biased titan main ''It sure does feel good''. It's about the only kind of rush I can get going when engaging others in PvP. I make sure to wear the bulkiest armour set as well, to really show off I am a titan and you didn't just get hit by the wind.

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                            • I thought they were making headshot throwing knives one shot in either this or the next update?

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                            • Yeah OK. Titans need blink. So do hunters. Oh and titans and hunters need a healing rift too. Oh and hunters and warlocks need a barricade too. Oh and titans and warlocks should be able to dodge. Can we give nova bomb to titans and hunters too? Wait a minute, can all classes be exactly the same please? Actually, can we just have one class? No, scrap that, can we just have one sub class?

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                                Each subclass is unique. You can play on all of three character if you choose to be stuck on a hunter and not try something different is your fault. Nightstalker can disable your radar smoke grenades disorients players go invisible the list goes on so stop bitching

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                              • Because one is a ranged attack the other requires physical contact....

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                              • Edited by Killmonger: 8/30/2018 5:01:51 AM
                                Another hunter crying about knife get over it

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                                • Warlocks and hunters should at least have something that counters a shoulder charge.

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                                  • Because you can literally shoot one hand cannon bullet then throw a knife and I’m dead. I have to sprint and get close to you and hope you don’t kill me by then lol

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