Please nerf these 2 guns. I have them both and have for quite some time now. I also have a lot of other cool guns. I’d like to use them. But in the crucible it Vigilance, Graviton, Crimson. If you’re not using one of them you may as well be using a peashooter. And by the numbers they’re not, at all, the best guns. Fix that ah!t man
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Jade Rabbit, Nameless Midnight, Uriels Gift(Any 450 really), a wide array of pulse rifles. Numerous side arms, SMG's... More often than not these guns cover up mediocre play but they do not take the place of good play. I am about as mediocre as you can get in PvP. When I pay attention to my surroundings and PICK MY ENGAGEMENTS, what guns I am using, or that others are using play far less of a role. Run and gun? Sure. There are some annoying meta weapons. All of which can be countered by good game play and any one of the things mentioned above. Use what you like. That's my motto.