Oh ok I've decided to give the game another go, I gave up quite quickly with it when it first came out so never played the dlc's ive got all of them now including forsaken when it's released for £55 which I wasn't to bothered about, will be taking a more casual approach to it now, not like my D1 days so not massively fussed if I don't get the gun, but nice to know it's possible if a bit time consuming if i ever did want it.