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Edited by Spawn:
8/7/2018 1:38:13 AM
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Stop pitting full fireteams against randoms in Crucible
Basically title. Just finished a game where half of my team was a wet paper towel and the opposition was team shooting for days. I mean shit, their top guy had fifty -blam!-ing kills and all but their last guy broke 20+ kills.(obviously the stats include kill assists).
I'm decent at crucible. Not a god, not trash. But going against an entire fireteam and getting destroyed just completely sucks and kills my motivation to do another match. If matching an entire fireteam to another full fireteam isn't possible, put them against a team that has a couple fireteams working together... Or something.
**This is especially frustrating when trying to get those 5 wins!
***It also didn't help the map was Endless Vale. Far too small for 12 people.
[spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses.
Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]
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Edited by Pie: 8/7/2018 10:02:29 PM[quote]Stop pitting full fireteams against randoms in Crucible[/quote] When a bunch of randoms are matchmade to become a fireteam.... do they not become a fireteam? 🤔
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a solo que would be nice, so would matchmaking for raid, nightfall, escalation etc. I would like to win the lottery also
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People need to get better at the game. That is all. Half of the people that play crucible are effective potatoes. They rush lanes when they should've know better and to expect at least four guardians watching said lane waiting, these mouth breathers that can't pvp also love staying bunched up together leaving themselves open to get flanked watching ONE single entry point, it's absolutely -blam!-. People just suck at playing so they need to get better. Use your goddamn brain.
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I don't mean to sound rude, but you could team up with others as well. I realize there are circumstances that might keep you from having a full fireteam of friends to play with, but you could find a full fireteam through LFG or other means. When I go into crucible alone I fully expect to loose more than I win. But again, I don't know your personal circumstances. Hope you get those wins soon.
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Just played a team of 6. They slaughtered us 155 to 45. I wonder if they got all tingly doing that It sucks bungie lets it happen.
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Just review the lobby and if there is a team of 3+ players, back out. If you didnt back out in time, leave the match. No need to sign up for an ass whooping. I do that every time. Teams that queue up for quick play usually just try to get stuff done quick on the expense of solo players. Quick play should NOT ALLOW teams at all. Maybe max teams of 2 players. Clans and groups of 3+ should be forced to queue competitive. I'm sure lots will disagree with me, especially ppl who look for cheap and quick wins. Ergo, just back out as long we have to deal with this bs
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17 RepliesI feel this post on another level. Going through it right now. Every match I go in I'm being paired against clan groups. I'm not, doing it. The coordination a group has vs. a group of randoms makes it an obvious win or lose from the start. I'm not putting up with an unstoppable force for ten minutes when I'm actually a decent pvp player. Just need to be pitted equally against players. Get a solo que, and a separate group que or something.
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5 RepliesJust spent 2 and a half hours to get 14 super kills in the Crucible. People leaving when they have their one or two super kills, teams of experienced players wiping the floor with grinders for the SoH armour, getting put into a game partway through always in loosing games (never a winning game!!). This is fun? Someone thought that 30 super kills was a great idea - in the Crucible - Bungie think about what your rewards do and how they can skew an ecosystem! All the graviton lance users (admit it up front I am having to use it) stand by for a nerf, which will ruin it for PVE!!! All the joy of getting the armour is getting leached away by every badly matched, poorly designed PVP game because Bungie have no idea about their customers. Stop listening to youtubers they are NOT the voice of the players!!!!!!!
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LITERALLY just view the lobby before you launch in. If you see a 6 stack, back out. That simple
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1 ReplyMatchmaking would probably suffer a lot unless they specifically made a solo queue mode.
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11 RepliesNot your fire team's fallibility. This is why we need skill based match making. Solo Q match making would be a good fix to. Bungie has to stop putting the sharks in with the goldfish. Because right now this shit is only fun for the sharks.
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I feel ya. I'm a higher-end of average kind of crucible player - not excellent, but I can hold my own in a team fight. Completing the solstice requirements while solo frustrated me so badly that I'm also avoiding the activity entirely. September will bring a huge upset to the current state of crucible though. We're about a month out from those changes. Look forward to that, as the sandbox team has already declared no intention of making any large changes before forsaken that doesn't involve the actual expansion launch.
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Yeah the randoms versus fireteams thing is rough sometimes. Can't tell you how many matches I lost last night. lol. But mainly I wanted to agree with you on map size. We have WAY TOO MANY small maps in Destiny 2. They are NOT made for 6v6 or the 8 man Rumble they got rid of recently. I'm really hoping in Forsaken they bring back the giant maps of yesteryear. Like the maps we used to play Combined Arms on in Destiny 1. However just decently increased sized maps without vehicles would be great as well. I recently mentioned this in feedback for the recent Crucible Labs - Lockdown mode. Check it out. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/247649801?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1
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agree...I was in the same situation...backed out one match at 118 - 4....my KD has been on free fall since update
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Coming from a person who hates destiny pvp with a passion, pvp is a part of the game, and is a justifiable requirement for an armor set that commemorates everything we’ve been through this year. And if you can’t get the super kills, then you are either just incredibly unlucky, or you are a potato. 30 super kills is not too steep of a price. There are ways of making it go easier. Would much rather get 30 super kills than deal with the smug egos in the prestige raid.
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6 RepliesI TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I WAS JUST COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS VERY THING ON BUNGOS TWITTER. I WAS IN QUICKPLAY GRINDING FOR CRUCIBLE WINS FOR MY SOLSTICE ARMOR WHEN THE ALL MIGHTY MATCHMAKING GOD THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT ME AND A BUNCH OF RANDOMS AGAINST A FULL CLAN FIRETEAM. OUT OF ALL THE MODES IT COULD OF PICKED IT THOUGHT "HUMMM A TEAM OF RANDOMS AGAINST A CLAN FIRETEAM.......I PICK CONTROL!" THE ONE MODE THAT REQUIRES TEAM WORK THANKS BUNGO. SO STRAIGHT AWAY WE GOT WE GOT ZONE A FOR THE 1ST AND LAST TIME. THE OTHER TEAM GOT C AND B AT THE SMAE TIME THEN BOXED US IN AT A. THEN WE LOST A AND BECAUSE WE WAS SPAWNING ALL OVER THE MAP WE COULDN'T EVEN REGROUP WE WAS PICKED OFF AS SOON AS WE SPAWNED. WE WAS ON 20 THEY WAS ON 92 THEN PLAYERS RAGE QUIT AND ME AND ONE OTHER WAS LEFT AS I DON'T QUIT EVEN IF I'M GETTING SMASHED AND ANYONE WHO CAME IN LEFT AS SOON AS THEY SAW THE SCORE. BUNGO NEED TO BRING IN A QUITING PUNISHMENT AS I SEE IT TOO OFFEN IN PVP AND PVE. THERE SHOULD BE A 10 MIN BAN ON ALL PVP AND PVE ACTIVITYS IF YOU LEAVE BEFORE THE END. I KNOW PEOPLE WILL CRY OVER IT BUT THEY ARE THE PEOPLE DOING IT. AND AFK NEED PUNISHMENT ASWELL I HAD A GUY WAS AFK UNTILL THE BOSS FIGHT IN A HEROIC STRIKE AND DIDN'T GET SENT TO ORBIT EVEN AFTER I REPORTED. IF YOU ARE AFK FOR 2 MIN IN ANY MATCHMAKING ACTIVITY YOU SHOULD GET A 15 MIN BAN FROM THEM ACTIVITYS. I BELIEVE THAT IF YOUR IN A FULL FIRETEAM IN PVP IN QUICKPLAY. EITHER 1. THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN QUICKPLAY AND ONLY BE ALLOWED IN COMPETITIVE SO ITS FAIR AND NORMAL PLAYERS PLAYING QUICKPLAY WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE. OR 2. FIRETEAMS GET MATCHED WITH OTHER FIRETEAMS AND RANDOMS GET MATCHED WITH OTHER RANDOMS. IF YOU ARE IN A FULL FIRETEAM PLAYING QUICKPLAY THEN YOUR A COWARD AND KNOW YOU WOULDN'T STAND A CHANCE IN COMPETITIVE. I HOPE IN FORSAKEN THEY REWORK PVP AND BRING IN PUNISHMENTS.
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simple solution is don't join solo but build a team. if not do what I do and deal with it or play rumble as its built for solo play.
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The correct phrase is: You hit like a freaking wet noodle!
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[quote]Basically title. Just finished a game where half of my team was a wet paper towel and the opposition was team shooting for days. I mean shit, their top guy had fifty -blam!-ing kills and all but their last guy broke 20+ kills.(obviously the stats include kill assists). I'm decent at crucible. Not a god, not trash. But going against an entire fireteam and getting destroyed just completely sucks and kills my motivation to do another match. If matching an entire fireteam to another full fireteam isn't possible, put them against a team that has a couple fireteams working together... Or something. **This is especially frustrating when trying to get those 5 wins! ***It also didn't help the map was Endless Vale. Far too small for 12 people. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote] That's what they are working on for September, exactly this issue, it will still happen just less often
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Indeed. It's effed up...
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Tell me about it.. I had a match where the whole enemy team just sat there and basically allowed us to get about 25 or so kills then proceeded to obliterate us.
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Today I played against a team with two complete clans and played with average 5.0+ kd using graviton lance and crimson
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As a solo player, I’d always get team spud. It sucks. I found the only way I could get wins was in a team of at least 3. Example: Sunday night I played two solo game and ended up top of the board with my team getting crushed. I queued up with two friends and then two more. We went on an 11 game win streak. None of us are great at crucible, but we sure played a lot better than the unorganized grabasstic spuds I was getting paired with.
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8 RepliesLol this guy seriously in here crying because hes getting beat in crucible? Its pvp, you go against teams, you go against randoms, anything can happen. Make some friends and stop being a solo douche.
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1 ReplyI met maybe 2 full teams in my last 30 games. Not sure if serious...
