Hopefully, if the Whisper mission and the Annual Pass stuff being kept vague is any indication, I think we may have a Calus like ally within the Hive.
Now the Hive aren't entirely Darkness. Darkness wants Nothing to exist and the Hive are still a race wanting to exist, which is why they made the Pact with the Worms to begin with.
Oryx was wrong about the Sword Logic, in practicing only the taking aspect part. Which in hindsight is a good plan. Except for the fact the there are limitations to how much you can take. Just like there is a limit to how much you can sharpen a sword before it becomes unusable.
This was Oryx's flaw. His power was becoming unsustainable. His hunger was insatiable, just like his Father, the King before him.
Savathun is the clever one, a thinker not a fighter. Savathun knows the limitations. She has felt the insatiable hunger.
She know's the flaws of the Sword Logic. Which is what Oryx, before dying, hoped that Savathun would figure out after she left on her own. He hope she became stronger than him.
and so she did.. along with her pet Vex Quria. A Taken Hydra that attempted to simulate Oryx, but could only simulate Aurash before being Taken and given to Savathun as a gift.
A Taken Hydra capable of creating simulations, leads to the Whisper mission on Io. A Taken Valus Ta'Aurc, Draksis Winter Kell and Urzok the Hated. 3 enemies we've seen before in D1. All have been defeated before becoming Taken.
We meet again one of them on Io, as Taken and defeat them. Then we meet them again in the Whisper mission and defeat them again.
Resurrections or simulations?
Either way, what else can we expect to see?
A Taken Phogoth? Skolas? Aksis? Atheon? Ghaul?
Our past is coming back to haunt us..
Much like Uldren. At the end of the campaign before he's killed by his own sister, most likely a simulated Sovathun.
The Raid begins and we meet our old friends again. Only it's a test for us that Savathun has set up to test how strong our Light really is. She's the Final Raid boss, but her power is being simulated by Quria because Quria actually has all the power, not Savathun.
Kind of like Calus & his Psion Councilors.
Intrigued by us she offers to be an ally of darkness, to fight the real Darkness coming to devour everything.
Which leads to the Annual Pass stuff.
3 pieces of vaguely worded DLC bundled together as if they're all connected by something.
My guess is that Savathun is going to become the new Calus and give us challenges to accomplish with these DLC & new Raid Lairs.
I really hope it's something like this. At least the part about Savathun being an neutral ally. I do NOT want her character build up to be thrown away in a Campaign/Raid boss fight like Oryx. No, not twice in a row. Her brilliance & cunning needs to be respected.
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1 ReplyI really don’t think Savathún will ally with us. Sure, she could pretend to, but I really don’t think it’ll happen entirely. Plus, even if Oryx was getting too strong, they figured out a way to divide tithings between the Hive and Hive Gods, in such a way that the Hive would grow stronger and the Gods would stay alive.
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In either the destiny 2 deluxe edition or on a weapon lore tab, Calus criticizes the hive and basically calls them stupid for making that pact. I don't think he'd ally with them
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Um spoiler?
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correction the vex (at least in the latest dlc) have been said to want a universe with neither light or dark the darkness itself seems to push beings into reaching their full potential through darwinism to fanatical degree.
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They said that savathun won't be part of the forsaken in the last game informer interview.
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3 Replies<Dude, she's getting quite the build up. She doesn't seem to be an ally though, more like the smartest enemy we've had so far. Either way, she shouldn't be a raid boss in Forsaken.>
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1 ReplyHe was definitely not a throw away.
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3 RepliesEdited by NYC_InfamousNick: 7/31/2018 1:22:03 PMAside from the fact that Savathun and Xivu Arath--the last remaining original Hive Gods--literally live to kill, Savathun has actively been preparing to launch a full-scale assault on Earth and the Guardians. The waves of Taken under her command, the attempt to monitor the entirety of Titan, all signs point to her being a potential raid boss/story boss. The race of beings that the Hive originate from (Krill) still have one potential surviving member: Taox. She escaped the Hive Gods at every possible turn, and the lore setup a huge slam-dunk for her to be an ally in a Hive-themed DLC where she can reveal secrets to the Guardians that can potentially destroy the Hive for good (or at least that can be the premise of the DLC). Calus is conceptually cool, but he's a boring character that has contributed nothing to the story outside of lore for the Cabal. The only reason he's somewhat interesting is that he decides to break the mold for an enemy race, and that he has a trick up his sleeve from visiting the supposed "edge-of-the-universe". I'd rather not see another Task-master like him in future DLCs, just have a friendly NPC oversee things. Last point: [b]Oryx was in no way a throwaway boss[/b]. He was the culmination of all the previous fights we had in D1, mashed together in an attempt to create an actual story. Most of the events that occur in D1 and D2 can be strung back to Oryx in one way or another. He presented a new, stronger threat with the Taken (albeit uninspired), made a grand entrance by wiping out most of the Reef in a single attack (that's how it was presented at the time, anyway), and refused to die even when we beat him in the campaign. Then to finish things, we go into his realm--where he is bigger and badder than ever--in what is arguably the hardest and most mechanically demanding raid in the franchise, and we stomped his lights out with his own power. Even when he died, he lived on within the stories contained within the Book of Sorrows, which tell the tale of the Hive, the Worm Gods, and the Osmium Throne. [i]That's story development bro.[/i]
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Agreed, the lore is quite deep already, they better expand on it.