I've been playing Destiny since D1 came out. First time ever played that tipe of game and after I figured how it works I liked it so much that I stopped playing any other games. But now... Man, I remember when I found a first Destiny friend in the open world and he got us into first VOG. We didn't know the hell is going on there. Dying all the time but no one got mad at us and kicked us out. Slowly we learned them all at that was my best gaming experience in my life. So much friends and so much fun. Now I don't feel like doing raids any more. The way the revive system works you're not allowed to die pretty much. There's no completion of that encounter if everyone aren't on their spot. People get frustrated and it's hard to learn that way. At least normal mode should be like that. A bit forgiving for new players That is just how I feel even tho I'm still playing everything else in the game. I work long hours and have no "every day" group to play with. If I go to LFG I need emblem, certain weapons, so many clears... How the hell I'm gonna get those unless playing like some all day every day. Hopefully Forsaken will bring new things to do even tho I can't wait for the new raid. ________________ I'm not saying that raid sucks or there's no good people to play with on LFG. I'm saying that because of "revive" mechanics you are not allowed to die more than once in normal raid while learning. It's ok for prestige. I like the fact that everyone have to do their role in the raid but if one person dies and no one has a revive that encounter fails. And how many times someone falls in gauntlet run at the start and you fail cause you didn't make it in time to revive that guy. They should only change that revive thing in normal raids so people can learn with less stress.