All of those claiming that matchmaking is the best it's ever been are prime examples of why SBMM in some form needs to be involved. Yeah, it's neat to get 50+kills a game... unless you are on the other end of that equation. All the ego's that are going to be deflated when they end up having to face players of appropriate skill... just wait and see the rivers of salt flow.

Unneccessary what others say. If you decide to leave this like it is I will never play QP again. Edit: Just fix the lag.

How many -blam!-ing times have you been told to make it SBMM, how?, really I’ll gladly wait until next week when you should be done counting. Really how is it that you decided to instead of fixing in an issue that took 3 years to fix not a priority, because you rather use players as guinea pigs instead of firing your incompetent testers. Really how did this get by testing?. And if you think letting it stay like that is a good idea clearly you guys are either crazy or just plain stupid. By the way I don’t even care or play pvp anymore, nor will ever again for rewards or milestones, but this is something no player should approve of, this is again 3 years of work down the drain.

I will be brief, no fix to matchmaking, no forsaken. I will retire my titan for good.

PvP is even more toxic than normal... I play for the milestone and maybe once in awhile for a change but now when I play I'm getting matched with people far better and it's just not fun...and no I don't want to get better...if I could avoid playing PvP I would but Bungie has made doing this crappy PvP part of the event armour...

So basically you’re just making Destiny a game for streamers, screw the actual players right? This game is complete utter trash. I miss Destiny 1 PvP so much. You’d be better off just dumping D2 and rebooting D1 crucible.

Do you guys even know how to tie up laces?

Please change competitive matchmaking back to normal too please! Why change it with a month left to get the claymore. There was nothing wrong with it, why change it?

Not having as much fun as I used to when being matched against players around my own skill level. I like to grow and improve and I can with sbmm but this is now matching my 1.5 with 5+ and I’m dead before I’ve blinked. This isn’t fun and all I’m learning is how to turn off PvP...

The lag is not funny anymore. You die from one bullet, or you think, since the other 4 bullets hitting where glossed over by the gigantic lag, but they registered of course... no time to react, no fun in this

This is a slippery slope that Bungie is climbing and essentially a lose-lose situation. Neither side (for or againt QP being SBMM) will be happy with whatever outcome Bungie decides to take. However, I think people are misunderstanding some key information here, and that is (in my opinion) Bungie has mislabeled there game modes. Quickplay SHOULD be primarily if not completely CBMM while "competitive" should be mostly SBMM. Although the word COMPETITIVE should not be used because it gives the wrong idea. Please stay with me as I explain. I believe that QP, as it is now, is how it should be, just wait and hear me out before you complain and disagree. QP should be a "stress-free" game mode (I say that loosely because we all want to win). I understand that the only payers that are going to truly enjoy this are the mid to upper skilled players as the will most likely win the majority of there matches. Competitive should be relabeled as something else, what I have no idea. But the competitive playlist should be primarily SBMM and the playlist [b]beginners[/b] should play in NOT QP. I believe the word Competitive gives the wrong impression. If you are a beginner and Comp is 90%ish SBMM than you are guaranteed to play other beginners. However, the word "Competitive" gives beginners the wrong idea and the way Bungie has set this up doesn't help. The game modes in Competitive should be the same as QP and vice versa. As beginners continue to play in the "Comp" playlist they get better over time and when they feel like jumping over to the more open QP playlist they can give it a go and see how they stack up against the rest of the population and vice versa if you are a mid to upper-level player and tired of being stagnant in your skill, play some "Comp" and hopefully get better. The only true option I believe that Bungie can win coming out of this situation is by giving US the players the ability to CHOOSE our Match Making algorithm. If we had a toggle switch for each playlist giving us the option to choose SBMM or CBMM for each playlist then all will be right in the world... maybe.

I have to say this is unacceptable. I pay a premium for my internet connections and don't want to be playing with those who have crap connections that cause rubberbanding and all the other issues associated with terrible internet. The community has been telling you this for years. We don't want to have our game experience messed with due to poor quality connections. put those players together to enjoy the game at the level of internet they have and leave the rest of us to play against good or bad players fine.. but not with poor connections.

QP is more toxic than usual. While I seem to be doing about the same as before, there are a LOT more lopsided matches, and since I'm on the losing team 75% of the time now, the game isn't fun anymore. Losing a control match 150 to 69 isn't fun no matter how well you may do. Especially when I'm trying to get paradox amplifiers, which apparently you don't get when your team loses. BTW, the new meta is the old meta. Crimson, vigalence wing everywhere.