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7/27/2018 5:30:38 AM
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Rasputin might be paracausal
So I always thought it was weird that Rasputin was more powerful than the Vex can handle. They dont understand him, cant simulate him, all that. I get hes a big computer, but hes not bigger than an alien network that spans space and time and is literally made of planet sized computers.
Another thing the Vex cant simulate or understand though is paracausal stuff. Hive magic, darkness, taken, and most of all the Traveler and Light. So that set me thinking that Rasputin must have some link to paracausal-ness, or whatever were calling those universe-breaking physics.
In the lore tabs for the new eververse armor, it implies that Rasputin was a kind of secret pet project of one of the scientists heading to meet the traveller for the first time. This baby rasputin was snuck aboard by his creator, on the ship that first contacted the Traveller on mars. I dont think this can be a coincidence. Maybe in being exposed to the Traveller, Rasputin became enhanced by the Light somehow and that became the base seed for the massive computer on mars now.
This might help explain how Rasputin is not simulatable by the vex, as well as how Rasputin technology (such as the Valkyrie) can do so much damage against things like... Giant darkness worm gods.
So yeah.
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In the Folklore it's said that the Vex can not simulate Warminds because Warminds are [i]smarter[/i] than the Vex.
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3 RepliesI'd call it "paracausalality" Only thing I can think of that is ACTUALLY paracausal is the existence of everything. What compelled subatomic particles to come into existence?
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Maybe bungie wrote its AI?
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Hmm, very interesting. Great post. It would also explain why the Hive are all up in Rasputin’s cornflakes. There is almost certainly a whole lot more here...
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2 RepliesThe warmind in the Grimoire you're referring to likely wasn't Rasputin. It was said to be "a warmind" implying that there were other warminds than Rasputin. Since we know that Rasputin is the only "Warmind", we can assume that "warmind" was a colloquial term for the major AIs involved in the Warmind project. Meaning it was probobly a Submind. It's a much more plausible story that Sundaresh's team got loaned a Submind than the actual Tyrant himself, but regardless of if it was actually Rasputin, the warmind in the story's ability to resist simulation doesn't imply paracausality. Paracausal entities naturally resist Vex simulations, they don't even realize they're doing it. Think of paracausality like how a storm would unintentionally jam a radio signal. What the warmind was doing would be more akin to actively scrambling the signal, to prevent the enemy from intercepting a message. It could resist Vex simulation because it was "smarter" than the Vex. Smart for AI, however, is much more different than a measurement of intelligence. It's in reference to the AI's applicable abilities. The Vex could keep the scientists in the dark about whether they were real or not by simulating their every action, but the Warmind project was created with the specific intent of staying fifteen steps ahead of the enemy. The warmind knew the Vex was trying to simulate it. It knew the Vex thought it would do [a.] without a shadow of a doubt, and that it would simulate it doing [a.] in all two hundred and twenty seven iterations of itself, and so it did [b.] instead, proving them to be in base reality.
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1 ReplyThe beauty of summer and free time huh?
